This is the same group who says it is okay to have computers which bring pornography into the home with little effort, yet outlaw television which has systems set in place where one could be lucky if a Disney cartoon could pass through the filter. Legalists are experts at rationalizing. Pharisees have self righteouss justification down pat. They lied right from the start. We all knew they were going to do it so it should be no suprise.
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Originally Posted by Bowas
The same thing as it would be unethical for a minister to leave a mother church and continue to "make contact" with members from the church he just left showing them what was going on in the new church he was starting.
I know it has been bantered about before, but it is still wrong no matter how one wants to rationalize it.
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Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
But orgs grow by recruiting people, so why shouldn't the WPF send something out to all the apostolic ministers it can contact to let it know about its fellowship?
If someone wants to join them it's not sheep/pastor stealing, that person chose to join that org.
I don't understand this "ethics" thing, but I am also indep, so I don't often come across this sort of stuff (or will in the future, since I plan to stay indep), I guess...
A magazine that is excellent in content, is unethical?
But signing an affirmation statement that one doesn't adhere to isn't unethical, unbelievable.
There are several things mailed to me that I don't "sub" to and I have never been offended, and not once in the "unethical" magazine do they ever "talk bad" about any organization.
Just so you know the "organization" sells, without our consent, our addresses to anyone that asks.............
Last edited by Melody; 12-04-2008 at 06:57 AM.
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In the end -- these issues really don't matter. They are human organizations, and the Kingdom of God is a whole lot bigger than both of them combined.
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This is the same group who says it is okay to have computers which bring pornography into the home with little effort, yet outlaw television which has systems set in place where one could be lucky if a Disney cartoon could pass through the filter. Legalists are experts at rationalizing. Pharisees have self righteouss justification down pat. They lied right from the start. We all knew they were going to do it so it should be no suprise.
This TV vs internet issue is competely absurd. I have heard the craziest arguments. We all know what you could do with a web cam. The anti TV people say we cant control what we watch and dont have the ability to change the channel if something comes on questionable. But we can control our internet, something that is a lot easier to hide than a TV program. These people are completely out of the loop. How many marriages has TV broken up compared to eharmony and the such??
[QUOTE=Melody;646313]A magazine that is excellent in content, is unethical?
But signing an affirmation statement that one doesn't adhere to isn't unethical, unbelievable.
There are several things mailed to me that I don't "sub" to and I have never been offended, and not once in the "unethical" magazine do they ever "talk bad" about any organization.
Just so you know the "organization" sells, without our consent, our addresses to anyone that asks.............[/QUOTE]
To whom Melody? Can you name names of random organizations who have received our mailing lists and are sending things out to all of the ministers?
And yes, what is being done is highly unethical. But I would really appreciate a list to back up your claims.
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To receive unsolicited mailings (news papers, political advertisements, store sales, catalogs, outreach mailings/door hangers at houses for folks to attend other churches, inviting friends, family and even strangers to visit your church for special events, etc.) one considers to be trash, then simply trash it. No one is "required" to read such magazines - and yet, who knows, there just might be an article in there you could find interesting, perhaps even valuable. I can't say - I don't get any. LOLOL
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I have seen and read their magazine and there is some good reading in it.
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