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11-24-2008, 08:33 PM
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Re: Emergent Leader says "Gay is Biblical Lifestyl
It is a Biblical lifestyle, just as adultery is.
You just get killed for it.
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11-24-2008, 09:34 PM
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Re: Emergent Leader says "Gay is Biblical Lifestyl
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One of the key leaders of today's most cutting-edge church movement has opened an Internet discussion on the issue of same-sex marriage with the bold proclamation that he believes "gay, lesbian, bisexual, transsexual and queer" individuals can and should live out their sexuality in – and blessed by – the Christian church.
"I now believe that GLBTQ can live lives in accord with biblical Christianity (as least as much as any of us can!)," writes author and church leader Tony Jones, "and that their monogamy can and should be sanctioned and blessed by church and state."
Jones is an author and former youth pastor who holds a doctorate from Princeton Theological Seminary. He is also the national coordinator of Emergent Village, a loosely-formed friendship of churches that derive their descriptive name from having "emerged" from postmodernism to take the gospel of Jesus Christ into a post-Christian culture.
The "Emergent Church," as these mostly young, community- and mission-driven congregations are collectively known, is criticized by some for being "theologically liberal," praised by others as the best hope for passing the torch of Christianity to future generations.
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Why monogamy? They practiced polygamy in the OT. How about polyamous homosexuality? What I am getting at is there seems to be no end to this.
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11-24-2008, 10:11 PM
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Re: Emergent Leader says "Gay is Biblical Lifestyl
Here are some of the comments made I found a page linked to the article:
Timone Martin
November 20, 2008 9:20 PM
I don't have any problem with gay people, but why do gays have so much venom against child-lovers, incestuals, and polygamists? We're all just looking for love. What's wrong with that? What could possibly be wrong with that?
cindy
Aaron S.
November 20, 2008 11:02 PM
I agree with Timone. I have many friends who pursue faithful, committed, consensual man-boy love, and I can tell you, it is REAL. It makes me feel ashamed when I see so many in the gay community shun this expression. I feel like the homosexual community is on the verge of something big here, something equal, something just, something true. Any, yet, simultaneously, we are shutting the door on our brothers and sisters who just see love a little differently. Why is that? Love erases the hate of those who would judge us. Can anyone help me out here?
Seeking understanding,
A.S.
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11-24-2008, 10:33 PM
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Re: Emergent Leader says "Gay is Biblical Lifestyl
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11-24-2008, 10:53 PM
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Re: Emergent Leader says "Gay is Biblical Lifestyl
Seems the church is wrestling with dwindling converts and trying to take them all at all costs, but is that bible? Does the bible say we can save everyone?
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11-24-2008, 11:13 PM
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Re: Emergent Leader says "Gay is Biblical Lifestyl
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Originally Posted by Jeanie
Here are some of the comments made I found a page linked to the article:
Timone Martin
November 20, 2008 9:20 PM
I don't have any problem with gay people, but why do gays have so much venom against child-lovers, incestuals, and polygamists? We're all just looking for love. What's wrong with that? What could possibly be wrong with that?
cindy
Aaron S.
November 20, 2008 11:02 PM
I agree with Timone. I have many friends who pursue faithful, committed, consensual man-boy love, and I can tell you, it is REAL. It makes me feel ashamed when I see so many in the gay community shun this expression. I feel like the homosexual community is on the verge of something big here, something equal, something just, something true. Any, yet, simultaneously, we are shutting the door on our brothers and sisters who just see love a little differently. Why is that? Love erases the hate of those who would judge us. Can anyone help me out here?
Seeking understanding,
A.S.
Sickening!
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amazing-i would say there is no way someone typed this and meant it,but shamefully,there is more chance of it being true than a spoof.
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11-24-2008, 11:16 PM
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Re: Emergent Leader says "Gay is Biblical Lifestyl
The homosexual definition of a monogamous relationship is one sexual partner at a time. It is not uncommon for homosexuals to hop around from partner to partner yet claim to be monogamous.
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11-24-2008, 11:49 PM
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Re: Emergent Leader says "Gay is Biblical Lifestyl
I'm pretty sure that by 'monogamous' they mean a long-term, life long committed relationship that may or may not be officially consumated in a legal sense. Hopping from partner to partner is considered promiscuous behavior by straights and gays.
By the way, doesn't it seem possible that there will be homosexuals and lesbians in heaven? As long as they are not practicing their sexual orientation and they have accepted Christ are they not Christian? Assuming that gayness isn't genetic, if it's a choice and they make the choice NOT to engage in their weakness then are they not homosexual/lesbian and yet still a saint just as a recovering alchololic, drunk, or porn addict still battles their urges yet lives a chaste and holy life and are saved? I think so. I'm thinking of the great Christian thinker and author Henri Nouwen.
I wonder how many on this board are thankful for this particular grace of God? Statistically it's at least 1 in 10.
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11-25-2008, 12:08 AM
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Re: Emergent Leader says "Gay is Biblical Lifestyl
The homosexual community has their own definitions. Remember they are attempting to redefine marriage. They have redefine monogamy. Do you know the average amount of partners the average homosexual has? It would astound you. Yet many of them believe they practice a monogamous relationship.
According to scripture, He who the Son sets free is free indeed. There is no such thing as a recovering alcholic in the Kingdom of God. When God gets ahold of the alcoholic, that person is recovered.... Recovering indicates an ongoing process... When God sets free, addiction chains are broken.
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I'm pretty sure that by 'monogamous' they mean a long-term, life long committed relationship that may or may not be officially consumated in a legal sense. Hopping from partner to partner is considered promiscuous behavior by straights and gays.
By the way, doesn't it seem possible that there will be homosexuals and lesbians in heaven? As long as they are not practicing their sexual orientation and they have accepted Christ are they not Christian? Assuming that gayness isn't genetic, if it's a choice and they make the choice NOT to engage in their weakness then are they not homosexual/lesbian and yet still a saint just as a recovering alchololic, drunk, or porn addict still battles their urges yet lives a chaste and holy life and are saved? I think so. I'm thinking of the great Christian thinker and author Henri Nouwen.
I wonder how many on this board are thankful for this particular grace of God? Statistically it's at least 1 in 10.
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11-25-2008, 01:56 AM
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Re: Emergent Leader says "Gay is Biblical Lifestyl
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