Genesis 1 gap theory

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Sam

The Jeremiah 4 passage could be refering to a future time that we have not yet seen.

There are some who believe in a pre-adamic race of people. Some believe that the spirits of that group of people are the demons of today. I may be wrong but I think Derek Prince and Benny Hinn believe(d) that.

A UPC preacher who has passed away believed that as well, AW Post, from New Brunswick, Canada. I personally disagree with it, though.

[meBNme]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Whereas I see no gap in the seventy weeks of Daniel in Daniel 9, I believe there are instances where gaps are to be understood in scripture. Perhaps Gen 1:1-2 is one of them.

Please help me narrow this down to its truth.

Genesis 1:1 says God created the heaven and earth. And verse 2 says the earth was void and without form.



When you research the Hebrew word for "without form" it is as follows:



The same word is used in Isaiah 45, translated as "in vain", and is also used in connection with the creation of earth.



So if Isaiah said God did not create the earth TOHUW, but Gen 1:2 says the earth was TOHUW, then how can we make any sense out of it other than saying a gap of time occurred after creation in Genesis 1:1 and before verse 2 when the earth was TOHUW?

Here's the way I see it.

First there was literally nothing.
Then Gen 1:1 There was a mass of stuff, jumbled, and scattered.
Then Gen 1:3 There was light/energy added to the mix.
Then Gen 1:4 the light became separate, the energy became into a focused source.
Then Gen 1:6-8 Some form started happening and what we now know as atmosphere, stratosphere etc separated the liquid waters from the vapor waters.
Then Gen 1:9-10 The earth actually began to take shape in a form somewhat like what it is now, there was land, and there were seas, with a heaven surrounding it.
Then Gen 1:11-12 grass, tree's and their kind (vegetables, flowers etc being their kind) began growing.
Then Gen 1:14-18 This is when time as we know it began. Day, nigh, seasons, years. This is when the Sun, moon and starts formed in the heavens.
Then Gen 1:20-22 "life started forming in the oceans, whales, fish, and birds, and their kindbegan to form. (or "evolve" if you will.)
Then Gen 1:24-25 life began to evolve on earth and earth bound creatures started to multiply. Cattle and their kind creeping things, Beasts, and their kind(I believe this is where dinosaurs went through their phase, and many of the beasts and creatures that are now extinct, including apes "and their kind" ((cro-magnon, neanderthal etc.)) roamed the earth.)
Then Gen 1:26 A new creature came to be. Man, now roamed the earth, a being with the breath of God creating life, making him a soul.

Now there was a being that God would interact with, walk with, talk with, and one day ultimately save from their very own destruction.

Gen 2:4 explains that there are "generations" of the heavens and the earth and when they were created. "In the day that the lord created them.

I believe the "day" refers to the time period described as "the generations" of the creation of heaven and earth. The earth was thousands of "years" old (or "generations") long before time as we know it actually began.
That's why science shows the earth as far more than a mere 6 or 8 thousand years old. Earth was older than that before time began. Those beasts and their kind roamed and became extinct during the generations of creation before the seventh day when God rested, before man was even created.


Lets look at science, what does science say?


As I have long believed. Science does not contradict the Bible. Science CONFIRMS the Bible!

[meBNme]

Originally Posted by Sam

The Jeremiah 4 passage could be refering to a future time that we have not yet seen.

Could it not also be a backwards timeline?
Seeing the creations in reverse as if going back in time through the stages of creation untill the time where the earth was without form, and void.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by meBNme

Could it not also be a backwards timeline?
Seeing the creations in reverse as if going back in time through the stages of creation untill the time where the earth was without form, and void.

Sure, I'm not arguing that it has to be future. Just saying it might be future. Some times past, present, and future are woven together in prophecy.
God could be saying through the prophet, "I've seen the earth cursed and destroyed before and it could happen again."

[bkstokes]

Interesting stuff

One guy told me once, that the earth was just as it was described in Genesis. He said that just like God made Adam into a man and not a baby -- he did the same with the earth. In other words, all this stuff that scientist date back so many years was formed by God to be that way -- without the passing of all that time.

That guy on TBN that has the museum in Texas has some interesting comments about this kind of stuff.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by bkstokes

Interesting stuff

One guy told me once, that the earth was just as it was described in Genesis. He said that just like God made Adam into a man and not a baby -- he did the same with the earth. In other words, all this stuff that scientist date back so many years was formed by God to be that way -- without the passing of all that time.

That guy on TBN that has the museum in Texas has some interesting comments about this kind of stuff.

We have the Creation Museum in northern Kentucky near the Cincinnati airport. They believe in the "young earth" theory and are not tolerant of any other opinions. It is a very worthwhile place to go and spend the better part of a day.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by bkstokes

Interesting stuff

One guy told me once, that the earth was just as it was described in Genesis. He said that just like God made Adam into a man and not a baby -- he did the same with the earth. In other words, all this stuff that scientist date back so many years was formed by God to be that way -- without the passing of all that time.

That guy on TBN that has the museum in Texas has some interesting comments about this kind of stuff.

I heard that, too. But there was a good purpose for God making Adam and adult and not an infant, which would not make sense in doing the same with the earth.

[mfblume]

Psalm 104 parallels Genesis first 6 days perfectly. But after it mentions the sixth day, it says this:

Psalms 104:30 KJV Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.

Sounds like Genesis 1 was a renovation, not creation, except for verse 1 and except for life.

[jimmyrrs]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

On the other hand, maybe there really is a sort of Karma. The earth is really really REALLY old and it has been populated once before, gone through all the events until God destroys the planet and starts over again and again and again. God is populating heaven or maybe even other planets with the faithful....

Welcome to a Mormon/Scientology meets Krishna hybrid

The bible does say in Gen 1:28 "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."
One meaning for replenish is "to fill or build up again".
Could something have happened to mankind before the flood?

[bkstokes]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I heard that, too. But there was a good purpose for God making Adam and adult and not an infant, which would not make sense in doing the same with the earth.

This TOTAL speculation, but God could have done that in order to test people.