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Old 10-13-2008, 05:33 PM
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Re: Free will versus reality!

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clgust.,

I've been curious and meaning to ask you, what faith are you?
what type of church do you attend ( if any) ?
I am fully apostolic pentecostal... UPC (I guess that means some would argue the first part then).

Just because I am a little different in my beliefs doesn't mean the fundamentals aren't the same. I just think too many people shove off the science because it gets complicated when many get the boot too soon, like evolution and (conditioning).
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Old 10-13-2008, 06:09 PM
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Re: Free will versus reality!

At my assembly I'm known as the 100% Arminian... Yep, a true Arminian here, no Calvinistic bone or inkling in me, not no way, not no how. I believe GOD works things out according to HIS will, but that EVERY person has, at least for some point, and for some time, the will and the ability to get right with GOD. Pharoah's heart was hardened, but before then, he still had a measure of faith like the rest of us, and could have sought the LORD. After years of disobedience, then GOD hardened his heart, just as HE did to others who had become so reprobate after time of following their own ways.

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Old 10-13-2008, 06:20 PM
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Re: Free will versus reality!

And where does your own mind play?

This thread was not meant to be a Calvinism versus Arminianism. I think there are varying views on this site of the nature God plays, so for those that are Arminian, aside from the autonomy from the will of God, how much free will do you think you have from psychological conditioning?

This question is obviously not directed at Calvinists, so if you are please try to refrain from distracting from the essence of the question.
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Old 10-13-2008, 06:37 PM
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Re: Free will versus reality!

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Just kidding, I just wanted to get everyone's attention.

I want to read everyone's comments on the topic... Do you believe in free will? Do you believe in a limited free will? Do you Believe in something besides free will and Predestination? Do you believe in predestination?
The Church (Bride) is predestined but people are not. We all have 100% free will.

This walk is one of faith.. not logic.
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:02 PM
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I believe salvation is all God, but how much we work out the salvation is us.
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I believe salvation is all God, but how much we work out the salvation is us.
It's either all God, or it's not.
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I want to read everyone's comments on the topic... Do you believe in free will?

Please define precisely what you mean by "free will".
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:11 PM
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And where does your own mind play?

This thread was not meant to be a Calvinism versus Arminianism. I think there are varying views on this site of the nature God plays, so for those that are Arminian, aside from the autonomy from the will of God, how much free will do you think you have from psychological conditioning?

This question is obviously not directed at Calvinists, so if you are please try to refrain from distracting from the essence of the question.
Please use this as the main question....
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At my assembly I'm known as the 100% Arminian... Yep, a true Arminian here, no Calvinistic bone or inkling in me, not no way, not no how. I believe GOD works things out according to HIS will, but that EVERY person has, at least for some point, and for some time, the will and the ability to get right with GOD. Pharoah's heart was hardened, but before then, he still had a measure of faith like the rest of us, and could have sought the LORD. After years of disobedience, then GOD hardened his heart, just as HE did to others who had become so reprobate after time of following their own ways.

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Old 10-13-2008, 07:40 PM
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It's either all God, or it's not.
Oh, there you go again, being logical!
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