Chinese Charismatics

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

1. I don't know that they are even Christian. (partly because of the language barrier)

2. I am not at all sure I would want to experience what they are.

but you say that because you do not know what they are saying. not based upon what you actually see.
i have seen other churches that do not speak english and being in their presence I can say that I knew what was going on just from the feelings they invoked in me. like a spirit connecting with like spirit.
since I am not in these peoples presence to know how i feel from it I would have to say I agree with you, we may not want to experience what they are but if I go on the assumption that they are worshipping God I would have to say the seem sincere in it.
It would be nice to actually know what is being said though. makes it a lot easier.

I have attended services in Spanish, before I started picking it up better, and i knew from what I felt that they were worshipping God and that they were speaking in tongues, etc etc. I was able to joing the worship freely based on what I was feeling from them not in rather I actually knew what was being said.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

1. I don't know that they are even Christian. (partly because of the language barrier)

2. I am not at all sure I would want to experience what they are.

When I hear Halleluyah I know they are worshipping YAH. When I see hands raised to Heaven and tears streaming down faces of praying people calling the name Yesu I assume it is a Christian Assembly.

I had actually thought this would bless people who talk about being on fire for Christ. No one even bears witness with them.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

When I hear Halleluyah I know they are worshipping YAH. When I see hands raised to Heaven and tears streaming down faces of praying people calling the name Yesu I assume it is a Christian Assembly.

I had actually thought this would bless people who talk about being on fire for Christ. No one even bears witness with them.

Sorry to be critical...

I think there is a whole lot of conditioning taking place in many of those gatherings.

Sometimes it's manifest in shockamoo or isle running, in the case of Benny Hinn and AOG it's fainting and getting "slain in the Spirit", and in the case of this video it is the expectation of laying in orderly rows and shivering... or jumping in unision. All of the above may be just fine and dandy, but I am not convinced we can or should take it as a sign of any great spirituality. It is rather easily duplicated and often takes more stamina to resist than it does to simply join in and participate.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Sorry to be critical...

I think there is a whole lot of conditioning taking place in many of those gatherings.

Sometimes it's manifest in shockamoo or isle running, in the case of Benny Hinn and AOG it's fainting and getting "slain in the Spirit", and in the case of this video it is the expectation of laying in orderly rows and shivering... or jumping in unision. All of the above may be just fine and dandy, but I am not convinced we can or should take it as a sign of any great spirituality. It is rather easily duplicated and often takes more stamina to resist than it does to simply join in and participate.

My thinking is the opposite. I hear no music blaring in the background. I see people doing what IMO is a glorious thing. Giving themselves to a very fervent time of worshipping the Creator of Heaven and Earth. In Pentecostal Americanism praising the Lord is seen as the Spirit taking control over you and making you run the aisles. Or "shouting" and snapping the body back and forth. What I see in the video is just praise and prayer to God. Offered enthusiastically. Why they are in the floor I dont know.

Its possible that they are conditioned to worship this way. Maybe if I were there for a while I would feel different about it. But after seeing the Pentecostal Worship here for over 30 years it seems like a breath of fresh air to see such fervency. Also "conditioned" just means "trained" in this context.
I would be happy to see people trained in the Churches to worship Yeshua whole heartedly.

In the 70's I fellowshipped with an Asian group called "The Ceylon Pentecostal Mission". Their worship times were much like what I see in the video minus the people on the floor. Perhaps the memory of that attracts me.