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07-10-2008, 08:58 AM
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Re: PPH destroys books authored by WWPF?- Rieder n
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Originally Posted by harleypreacher
I remember several years ago asking a high ranking official of the UPC why the PPH didn’t stock Tommy Tenney’s books, while T.D. Jakes, John Maxwell, Rick Warren and others are being sold. The answer was Tommy Tenney walked away from truth and it would send the wrong message to our young ministers.
So when you walk away from the UPC, you walk away from truth, as long as you were never in truth, your books and materials are ok. Sounds like a bunch of religious politics to me.
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That is insane!!!! Support a "false prophet" like Rick Warren, but excommunicate someone in the TRUTH simply because they don't agree with your man-made organization?
That's real "Christian."
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07-10-2008, 09:25 AM
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Re: PPH destroys books authored by WWPF?- Rieder n
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Would the org pull Reider's or Jasinki's books if questions about holy hair would persist and their was enough of a clamor?
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RR would have to walk away from truth first before they pull her books, but wait is she a license minister with the UPC? I don't think it counts if your ex husband walks away.
The magic hair doctrine didn't work according to her little story on page 69 of "Power Before The Throne". The woman in her story trimmed her hair and lost her husband because of adultery, RR didn't trim her hair and divorced her husband for the same reason. Her husband was forced to walk away from truth, and she still has the power.
I said forced to walk away because there is no restoration in UPC, we like killing our wounded, that’s another subject.
Why don’t UPC preachers read “Power Before The Throne”?
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07-10-2008, 09:41 AM
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Re: PPH destroys books authored by WWPF?- Rieder n
I think it just makes the UPC appear to be petty if they pull either ultra con or lib authors books from their shelves while they carry non Oneness authors.
I think the exception would be any books that denigrate the UPC.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-10-2008, 10:18 AM
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Re: PPH destroys books authored by WWPF?- Rieder n
I don't even want to get started in this. It just makes me too upset. I will only say that someone needs to pass out the "binkys" at a certain headquarters located somewhere in the Unites States and call the Waaaaaambulance.
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07-10-2008, 10:21 AM
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Beautiful are the feet......
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Re: PPH destroys books authored by WWPF?- Rieder n
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Originally Posted by CC1
I think it just makes the UPC appear to be petty if they pull either ultra con or lib authors books from their shelves while they carry non Oneness authors.
I think the exception would be any books that denigrate the UPC.
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Do you mean to tell me that PPH doesn't sell "Christianity Without the Cross"?
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07-10-2008, 10:46 AM
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Re: PPH destroys books authored by WWPF?- Rieder n
The PPH really confuses me with some stuff...like mentioned here about allowing td jakes, joyce meyer books, etc. but then our pastor at one time had one of his books sold through the PPH. Then a certain high ranking preacher disagreed with some of it and it was pulled. When most others did agree with it. Yet they allow RR's magic hair books when the majority of folks I know do NOT agree with it. I don't think some have ever read it...they just thought they couldn't go wrong with a book about hair.
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07-10-2008, 11:08 AM
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Re: PPH destroys books authored by WWPF?- Rieder n
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Originally Posted by SavedLou
The PPH really confuses me with some stuff...like mentioned here about allowing td jakes, joyce meyer books, etc. but then our pastor at one time had one of his books sold through the PPH. Then a certain high ranking preacher disagreed with some of it and it was pulled. When most others did agree with it. Yet they allow RR's magic hair books when the majority of folks I know do NOT agree with it. I don't think some have ever read it...they just thought they couldn't go wrong with a book about hair.
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If there was a book who's sole purpose was to teach against television and the majority of the reasons against were based on the movie Poltergeist (you know the one.... Carrol Ann speaking to the set showing nothing but snow...), they wouldn't probably allow it because the ends justify the means when it comes to standards teaching.
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07-10-2008, 11:28 AM
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Re: PPH destroys books authored by WWPF?- Rieder n
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
If there was a book who's sole purpose was to teach against television and the majority of the reasons against were based on the movie Poltergeist (you know the one.... Carrol Ann speaking to the set showing nothing but snow...), they wouldn't probably allow it because the ends justify the means when it comes to standards teaching.
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ooh...yucky! i remember accidentally watching this on tv as a kid. didn't sleep good for a week! i just remember something undoing the kid's braces on her teeth and somebody eating a worm from a tequila bottle.
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07-10-2008, 11:30 AM
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Re: PPH destroys books authored by WWPF?- Rieder n
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Originally Posted by SavedLou
ooh...yucky! i remember accidentally watching this on tv as a kid. didn't sleep good for a week! i just remember something undoing the kid's braces on her teeth and somebody eating a worm from a tequila bottle.
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That was Pianoman eating the worm from the tequila bottle right after he "went charismatic"!!!!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-10-2008, 11:32 AM
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Beautiful are the feet......
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Re: PPH destroys books authored by WWPF?- Rieder n
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Originally Posted by CC1
That was Pianoman eating the worm from the tequila bottle right after he "went charismatic"!!!!
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Hey! The worm is the prize!
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