I Love The UPCI - Page 2

jaxfam6 · #11 05-18-2008, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Speaking about problems the UPCI has doesn't mean that it's being bashed or hated. It's discussions that are important and need to take place in order for healing and change to begin.

I can agree with that to a degree, however, there are those who talk bad all the time about the UPC and any other organization that they feelare "ultra conservative".
I personally do not like organizations, I think most have an elitist attitude. I do understand that it is good to be part of a group therefore I do not say much against organizations in general. I would LOVE to see more fellowship between the groups. I am a firm believer that until we do we will never have the growth that God has for the church.

StillStanding · #12 05-18-2008, 07:54 AM

The UPCI is a great organization. I have lots of friends who are still a part of it!

In every organization, there are some fringe individuals who may give the organization a bad name. My opinions are from personal experiences from my part of the country.

I do believe that the UPCI is doing a lot of things right!

chosenbyone · #13 05-18-2008, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Yeah me too. I guess I can consider myself fortunate... I have not had these horrific happenings. Oh I am well aware of issues, problems, contentions and even inconsistencies, yet I know these exist in various forms in all denominations.

God has been good to me!

He is a good God!

chosenbyone · #14 05-18-2008, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Falla39

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Originally Posted by chosenbyone

I have grown increasingly frustrated with posters bashing the UPC. I totally understand that many have had some very negative and hurtful experiences while attending a UPC church; however, holding on to the pain while tearing down the organization at every chance hasn't done anyone any good.

I have experienced hurt too and I thought that I would never go back, but I realized that if change was every going to occur it would be better orchestrated from within.

Instead of bashing the UPCI why not pray for your local church and the leadership? Stop hating and start loving!!!

PROFOUND, Bro. ChosenbyOne!!! Absolutely profound!!

Victory, victory, will be mine.
Victory, victory, will be mine.
If I hold my peace and let the
Lord fight my battles.
Victory, victory, will be mine!

Blessings,

Falla39

I love that song, MomC.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KOIJU5yyoDo

chosenbyone · #15 05-18-2008, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Speaking about problems the UPCI has doesn't mean that it's being bashed or hated. It's discussions that are important and need to take place in order for healing and change to begin.

H1,

I agree that discussions are important, but like Falla39 wrote it is the tone of the discussion that tends to be hurtful. Many times, the conversation becomes disrespectful to us that have remained UPC. There have been posts by people that I considered friends that I know would never say such rude comments to my face, yet they had no problems writing them here on AFF. It certainly didn't promote healing when I read what they wrote!

CB1

chosenbyone · #16 05-18-2008, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pianoman

The UPCI is a great organization. I have lots of friends who are still a part of it!

In every organization, there are some fringe individuals who may give the organization a bad name. My opinions are from personal experiences from my part of the country.

I do believe that the UPCI is doing a lot of things right!

Thanks, Pianoman.

Michael Phelps · #17 05-18-2008, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chosenbyone

H1,

I agree that discussions are important, but like Falla39 wrote it is the tone of the discussion that tends to be hurtful. Many times, the conversation becomes disrespectful to us that have remained UPC. There have been posts by people that I considered friends that I know would never say such rude comments to my face, yet they had no problems writing them here on AFF. It certainly didn't promote healing when I read what they wrote!

CB1

While I agree with your premise, keep in mind, there are some very cutting remarks made against those who have left the UPC, such as "Left truth", "false doctrine", etc.

On either side, discussion is fine, the personal attacks are not.

Having said that, I left the UPC a few years ago, and am very happy to be where I am - however, I would never disrespect the UPCI in any way, shape or form.

As Pianoman said, within any organization there are people, and where there are people, there is imperfection.

I love my job, but I deal with a few people on a daily basis that do not treat me with respect, but that's just life. I don't quit my job, I don't assume that the entire organization is made up of morons, because my experience is that the vast majority of the folks with whom, and for whom I work are very good people.

Someday I may accept a position with a different company, depending on my own circumstances, but I'll never disrespect the company I'm with now, because they have been very, very good to me.

Dimples · #18 05-18-2008, 08:21 AM

Let me preface this by saying I do understand what you are saying CB1.

However, at times, I believe there has been too much emphasis put on UPCI. Why do we have to defend the UPCI? Why do we have to state we love the UPCI?

I don't believe I have heard other denominations declare their love for their organization as much as I have seen it around here for the UPCI.

When is the last time you heard someone say I love AOG or I love the Methodist?

Would it be more appropriate to say we love the people of the UPCI?

chosenbyone · #19 05-18-2008, 08:26 AM

What I would like for our friends here on AFF to know was that not everyone who attended a UPC church was some backwards, liberal hating, control freak!

I have not been UPC all my life and I have been exposed to many different churches from Lutheran to Charismatic; however, I went back to the UPC because that was where I knew God wanted me to attend.

To read what some folks have written about us you would think that no one had an education beyond "kindergarten"; however, many of us were degreed professionals who could think for ourselves and be objective enough to discern what we believed as truth.

Now, I am going to get showered and dress to attend my UPC church this morning. I pray that everyone, UPC or not, has a wonderful time in the Lord's house today.

Michael Phelps · #20 05-18-2008, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by chosenbyone

What I would like for our friends here on AFF to know was that not everyone who attended a UPC church was some backwards, liberal hating, control freak!

I have not been UPC all my life and I have been exposed to many different churches from Lutheran to Charismatic; however, I went back to the UPC because that was where I knew God wanted me to attend.

To read what some folks have written about us you would think that no one had an education beyond "kindergarten"; however, many of us were degreed professionals who could think for ourselves and be objective enough to discern what we believed as truth.

Now, I am going to get showered and dress to attend my UPC church this morning. I pray that everyone, UPC or not, has a wonderful time in the Lord's house today.

I understand that perception is reality, but I'm a bit confused - maybe I missed all those posts that declared that all UPC folks were liberal hating, backwards control freaks?

I have a seen a few posts from people sharing personal experiences, but I've also seen very many posts from folks who shared their love for the UPCI, even though they've left?