Would Condoleeza Rice make a good VP?

[ChTatum]

I always thought Cheney should resign during President Bush's second term, he could then appoint Rice, paving the way for her to run this time.

But alas, it was not to be.....

[vrblackwell]

She is not conservitive enough, she thinks more in line with Powell.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by vrblackwell

She is not conservitive enough, she thinks more in line with Powell.

I think she's really more conservative than Powell. Powell was either moved out or wandered out on his own and replaced by Rice. I don't think she would have even been offered the job if the "evil neo-cons" that control Bush didn't like her work.

And... getting back to Stanford, she ran the Hoover Institution. This is the premiere conservative think tank along with the Heritage Institute. We could see people from the Hoover Institution like Thomas Sowell and Alexander Solzhenitsyn exerting an influence within a Rice admin.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by pelathais

I think she's really more conservative than Powell. Powell was either moved out or wandered out on his own and replaced by Rice. I don't think she would have even been offered the job if the "evil neo-cons" that control Bush didn't like her work.

And... getting back to Stanford, she ran the Hoover Institution. This is the premiere conservative think tank along with the Heritage Institute. We could see people from the Hoover Institution like Thomas Sowell and Alexander Solzhenitsyn exerting an influence within a Rice admin.

Thomas Sowell is the bomb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[chosenbyone]

First of all, we need to find someone who would be a good President before we look at a good VP!

I believe that Rice's credibility and reputation has been forever tarnished by her participation in the Bush Administration. The latest poll showed that 71% of Americans thought that Bush had lead this country down the wrong path to financial collapse (I threw in the financial collapse part).

Anyhow, my personal opinion of Rice changed after she testified in the 9/11 hearings that "no one in this administration would have ever conceived of terrorist hijacking planes and flying then into buildings". Hello? The evidence sure suggested that flying planes into buildings was not only conceived by folks in the Administration, but NORAD had trained and WAS training for such a scenario on 9/11. There were trails of security breifs that showed that her office was notified of the threat! In fact, wasn't the State Department warned of such a threat earlier that year by Italy's Secret Service and Britain's too?

OK, I have finished....

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by vrblackwell

She is not conservative enough, she thinks more in line with Powell.

Originally Posted by pelathais

I think she's really more conservative than Powell. Powell was either moved out or wandered out on his own and replaced by Rice. I don't think she would have even been offered the job if the "evil neo-cons" that control Bush didn't like her work.

And... getting back to Stanford, she ran the Hoover Institution. This is the premiere conservative think tank along with the Heritage Institute. We could see people from the Hoover Institution like Thomas Sowell and Alexander Solzhenitsyn exerting an influence within a Rice admin.

Condi Rice might not be conservative on all issues, such as gay marriage...

WASHINGTON — At a State Department ceremony this week, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice warmly acknowledged the family members of Mark Dybul, whom she was swearing in as the nation's new global AIDS coordinator.
As first lady Laura Bush looked on, Rice singled out his partner, Jason Claire, and Claire's mother. Rice referred to her as Dybul's "mother-in-law."



http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...y-crisis_x.htm

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Condi Rice might not be conservative on all issues, such as gay marriage...

WASHINGTON — At a State Department ceremony this week, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice warmly acknowledged the family members of Mark Dybul, whom she was swearing in as the nation's new global AIDS coordinator.
As first lady Laura Bush looked on, Rice singled out his partner, Jason Claire, and Claire's mother. Rice referred to her as Dybul's "mother-in-law."



http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...y-crisis_x.htm

No one has better "conservative" credentials than Dick Cheney - and look at his family. Because Rice was playfully teasing a new "ambassador" whose role is entirely ceremonial and was invented as sop that Clinton handed to the gays doesn't mean Rice actually supports some sort of gay marriage ammendment. My impression from the article you link was that this is waht the reported was reaching for. I don't even know what her position really is, but I think I could say she wouldn't support any federal legislation on the issue.

Finding anyone who is both "pure" on the "socially conservative" issues and electable nationally will be impossible. We'll always have to cut a deal and make a compromise. That's really how the system is designed. The good news is that others also have to treat with us. We should strive to make certain that they don't have to hang their heads in shame when they do.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by pelathais

No one has better "conservative" credentials than Dick Cheney - and look at his family. Because Rice was playfully teasing a new "ambassador" whose role is entirely ceremonial and was invented as sop that Clinton handed to the gays doesn't mean Rice actually supports some sort of gay marriage ammendment. My impression from the article you link was that this is what the reported was reaching for. I don't even know what her position really is, but I think I could say she wouldn't support any federal legislation on the issue.

Pel...how do you come the the conclusion that she was just "playfully teasing"?

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By the way... the man's title as an AIDS "ambassador" is indeed "ceremonial", but his position as the "U.S. Global AIDS Coordinator" within the State Department is not.

"Ambassador Mark R. Dybul (born 1963) serves as the United States Global AIDS Coordinator, leading the implementation of the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_R._Dybul

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Pel...how do you come the the conclusion that she was just "playfully teasing"?

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By the way... the man's title as an AIDS "ambassador" is indeed "ceremonial", but his position as the "U.S. Global AIDS Coordinator" within the State Department is not.

"Ambassador Mark R. Dybul (born 1963) serves as the United States Global AIDS Coordinator, leading the implementation of the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_R._Dybul

She referred to one man's mother as the other man's "mother-in-law." To me it just seems like an aside where she's trying to reach out to people in this ceremonial occassion (one that needlessly spends taxpayer dollars) and was fulfilling her role as MC and got through the whole thing with a little grace and without making it a controversy which is what the "other side" who have dearly loved for it to have been. And in an off-handed and unintentional way it strikes me as an unintended insult to the "couple" involved.

Just get up, steel your nerves, smile for the cameras and get it over with. Public officials have to do that all the time. If you can add a little warmth- then you can try, and maybe earn some bonus points. If you can make the whole affair forgettable, then you may have won.

The reporter seems to have jumped on this with an "Ooo-Rah!" fist pumping enthusiasm. That should really tell you more about the reporter's agenda than it does about Dr. Rice's long established and widely known views.

[brotherjason]

No, I found out the truth behind the Bush administration and I would be scared to have anyone of them in the oval office next election.