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Old 02-01-2008, 05:27 PM
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However, some may not be inhaling yet.

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Old 02-01-2008, 05:49 PM
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Re: Can any WPF'rs explain:

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I will also avoid having television, or other Hollywood or Hollywood-type productions and movies in my home or elsewhere. I will further refrain from engaging in any other such unacceptable programs or materials via radio, internet or any other present or future technology. I will limit my use of all forms of communication technology to that which is, educational, business, or otherwise wholesome and edifying.

Question: As this statement prohibits television in any form or fashion, why does it allow internet (barring unacceptable programs) to squeeze in under educational, business or otherwise wholesome and edifying? HMMMMMMM??? Are they saying a televison is more likely to destroy a person spiritually than the internet????????????????? It appears silly to have an internet site for your church but feel the need to form another organization because the UPC now allows advertising on television. Just looking for some principle here.
Not to defend the WPF, but I have explained the differences in principle and practice between broadcast television and internet access here on AFF until I'm blue in the face. I'm done. The Cliff's notes: It's push vs. pull media. People either get it or they don't. People either want more of the world's "offerings" or they want less.
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Old 02-01-2008, 05:55 PM
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Re: Can any WPF'rs explain:

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Not to defend the WPF, but I have explained the differences in principle and practice between broadcast television and internet access here on AFF until I'm blue in the face. I'm done. The Cliff's notes: It's push vs. pull media. People either get it or they don't. People either want more of the world's "offerings" or they want less.

You too?
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:03 PM
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Yeah this new insight into the hypocricy of the WPF is so refreshing maybe someone else will start a thread about bitterness over lost elections in the UPCI next.
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:08 PM
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Not to defend the WPF, but I have explained the differences in principle and practice between broadcast television and internet access here on AFF until I'm blue in the face. I'm done. The Cliff's notes: It's push vs. pull media. People either get it or they don't. People either want more of the world's "offerings" or they want less.
You can make you case till your blue in the face and it's still not logical!

If what you state is correct then that's all the more reason to PUSH the gospel into folks homes via television. Would you preach the Gospel at a bar if you had the chance? Would you preach on a corner frequented by prostitutes? So The Church, who the gates of hell can not prevail against, should let the use of television be conceded to evil? It's ok to let the sinner pull us into their computer monitor but not their television?

Seems to me the Internet vs. TV is a swallowing a camel and straining at a gnat.

All that aside I still love yah and wish God's best for you and yours!
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:09 PM
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You too?
What???? You missed all that? Maybe you were busy making nice at the dentist's after busting your wife in the chops?
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:11 PM
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Re: Can any WPF'rs explain:

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You can make you case till your blue in the face and it's still not logical!

If what you state is correct then that's all the more reason to PUSH the gospel into folks homes via television. Would you preach the Gospel at a bar if you had the chance? Would you preach on a corner frequented by prostitutes? So The Church, who the gates of hell can not prevail against, should let the use of television be conceded to evil? It's ok to let the sinner pull us into their computer monitor but not their television?

Seems to me the Internet vs. TV is a swallowing a camel and straining at a gnat.

All that aside I still love yah and wish God's best for you and yours!
Thanks!

errr, sorry folks, kindly disregard this hi-jack and resume your on-topic discussion.

Move along, nothing to see here . . .

Again, sorry.
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"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:31 PM
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However, some may not be inhaling yet.

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I will also avoid having television, or other Hollywood or Hollywood-type productions and movies in my home or elsewhere. I will further refrain from engaging in any other such unacceptable programs or materials via radio, internet or any other present or future technology. I will limit my use of all forms of communication technology to that which is, educational, business, or otherwise wholesome and edifying.

Question: As this statement prohibits television in any form or fashion, why does it allow internet (barring unacceptable programs) to squeeze in under educational, business or otherwise wholesome and edifying? HMMMMMMM??? Are they saying a televison is more likely to destroy a person spiritually than the internet????????????????? It appears silly to have an internet site for your church but feel the need to form another organization because the UPC now allows advertising on television. Just looking for some principle here.
I consider it a double standard
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Re: Can any WPF'rs explain:

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I will also avoid having television, or other Hollywood or Hollywood-type productions and movies in my home or elsewhere. I will further refrain from engaging in any other such unacceptable programs or materials via radio, internet or any other present or future technology. I will limit my use of all forms of communication technology to that which is, educational, business, or otherwise wholesome and edifying.

Question: As this statement prohibits television in any form or fashion, why does it allow internet (barring unacceptable programs) to squeeze in under educational, business or otherwise wholesome and edifying? HMMMMMMM??? Are they saying a televison is more likely to destroy a person spiritually than the internet????????????????? It appears silly to have an internet site for your church but feel the need to form another organization because the UPC now allows advertising on television. Just looking for some principle here.
Here is a little jingle that might help you to understand:



I like red.
You like blue.
I am so much better than you.
You like blue.
I like red.
To me it is as though you're dead.




We won't even consider purple, green, yellow, or any other color...J/K

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