Christians and Politics

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Your examples are great.

Do you think there is a difference between the Old Covenant ways and the New Covenant ways. As far as how God used Joseph, Esther, and Daniel?

Since the powers that be are ordained of God, we know that God is ultimately in control. Even though my Sister guilt tripped me into voting, I believe God's purpose will be done on earth as it is in heaven whether I vote or not.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

There is documentation. I really expected that Esaias would know some stuff. EB hasn’t weighed in yet either. I’ll dig up some documents if I need to. I’d rather wait for others to weigh in.

Enter KKK William Branham in the YouTubes search engine and look through the list.

Mormonism is nationalistic as well as the early Pentecostals. Yet, the LDS places themselves specifically into their eschatology. Where they are the ones who will save the United States at a time where the Constitution is threatened. The New Apostolic Reformation are also into Nationalism. Imagine being ruled by those nut jobs. But, keep in mind that not all Pentecostals or Apostolics pledge allegiance to the flag, or vote. Since voting for the lesser of two evils is still evil. Down here I found everyone from Eastern Orthodox to Baptists who refuse to vote for any level of government. Who believe that only through conversion (into their particular belief system) will anything be able to change. I spent a good hour listening to an individual tell me today how Donald Trump is the Beast because he was wounded in the head and is alive. I interjected and told him that Ronald Regan already had that title from his assassination attempt. DR D James Kennedy's old church in Fort Lauderdale are hard core Jesus is a Patriot believers. They have Jesus wrapped tight in the stars and stripes. Hey, if Hulk Hogan says it, it must be true.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Since the powers that be are ordained of God, we know that God is ultimately in control. Even though my Sister guilt tripped me into voting, I believe God's purpose will be done on earth as it is in heaven whether I vote or not.

Amen in Jesus name.

We always get the leadership we deserve.

[shag]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Since the powers that be are ordained of God, we know that God is ultimately in control. Even though my Sister guilt tripped me into voting, I believe God's purpose will be done on earth as it is in heaven whether I vote or not.

I follow…but this also comes to my mind…isn’t he not willing that any should perish, but they’re still perishing by the groves?


Is it possible that he is not allowing his will to be done with some things?

I don’t think I can wrap my mind around this stuff…hurts my brain…what all falls under “His will”, and if it’s accomplished even without the assistance of his body of Christ.


Not intending to argue your point…just thinking out loud


I figure he’s got it all under control know matter who gets voted in.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by shag

I follow…but this also comes to my mind…isn’t he not willing that any should perish, but they’re still perishing by the groves?


Is it possible that he is not allowing his will to be done with some things?

I don’t think I can wrap my mind around this stuff…hurts my brain…what all falls under “His will”, and if it’s accomplished even without the assistance of his body of Christ.


Not intending to argue your point…just thinking out loud


I figure he’s got it all under control know matter who gets voted in.

For 2,000+ years, the Church has proclaimed the gospel openly, as the Apostle Paul said, "This thing was not done in a corner" (Acts 26:26). Jesus desires none to perish (2 Peter 3:9), yet teaches the path to salvation is narrow: "Enter through the narrow gate... few find it" (Matthew 7:13-14). Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me" (John 14:6). People have to be open to an encounter with Jesus instead of rejecting Him and His commandments at every turn. I wonder how much of the big voter turnout is people wanting access to abortion and weed.

In the Old Testament nobody got to vote and yet God moved Kings and Kingdoms around the chess board to accomplish His will at His pleasure.

Alexander the Great conquered the world and God gave us the Septuagint and the Greek new testament to reach a Greek speaking world. The Romans conquered the world making roads accessible for missionaries to travel and preach the gospel. God is always making a way for us.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

For 2,000+ years, the Church has proclaimed the gospel openly, as the Apostle Paul said, "This thing was not done in a corner" (Acts 26:26). Jesus desires none to perish (2 Peter 3:9), yet teaches the path to salvation is narrow: "Enter through the narrow gate... few find it" (Matthew 7:13-14). Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me" (John 14:6). People have to be open to an encounter with Jesus instead of rejecting Him and His commandments at every turn. I wonder how much of the big voter turnout is people wanting access to abortion and weed.

In the Old Testament nobody got to vote and yet God moved Kings and Kingdoms around the chess board to accomplish His will at His pleasure.

Alexander the Great conquered the world and God gave us the Septuagint and the Greek new testament to reach a Greek speaking world. The Romans conquered the world making roads accessible for missionaries to travel and preach the gospel. God is always making a way for us.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Going to be an interesting 4 years.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngph6pM2RDU

[diakonos]

The body of Christ in the USA is going to see victory? Is that what he meant to say?

[Amanah]

Trump's campaign was so entertaining and innovative while Kamala was boring... I'm interested to see what role Elon will play and who else will be involved. How will RFK Jr implement health improvements. I woke up this morning feeling a little more optimistic, glad Kamala didn't win, cause I suspect she's the antichrist.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

There is documentation. I really expected that Esaias would know some stuff.

I do know a few things. Yet, it seems you expected me to get into a discussion about a subject where you said "I will intentionally not provide supporting information"?