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Old 08-22-2020, 01:49 PM
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observe these Bible principles: give tithe and freewill offerings for the support of the congregation and its gospel ministry
Apostolics yes, but except when it comes to money, lol.

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Apostolics yes, but except when it comes to money, lol.
This doctrine separates the chaff from the wheat IMHO.
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This doctrine separates the chaff from the wheat IMHO.
Oh yeah, they can teach no tithing, but teach a bunch of other mess and it's all good.

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No it's pentacle, I can promise you that. Call it a spiritual Freudian slip.
Their version of the five-fold ministry?
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This doctrine separates the chaff from the wheat IMHO.
You are correct sir/ma’am.

The doctrine of giving tithe to a Pastor is simply unbiblical. It makes me sick when I see a preacher collect tithe, and use it for his personal gain, while there may be some saints in the church struggling.
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You are correct sir/ma’am.

The doctrine of giving tithe to a Pastor is simply unbiblical. It makes me sick when I see a preacher collect tithe, and use it for his personal gain, while there may be some saints in the church struggling.
As in the words of Bro. Benincasa,

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The doctrine of giving tithe to a Pastor is simply unbiblical. It makes me sick when I see a preacher collect tithe, and use it for his personal gain, while there may be some saints in the church struggling.
It is sir.

A little trivia. The term filthy lucre occurs five times in the Bible. Lucre is of course money or profit. Filthy is filthy, or shameful. So we have an implied meaning of shameful profit.

In each occurrence that I will list below, the context is leadership of the church doing so for profit. There is NO other mention of filthy lucre in the KJV Bible other than these five.

1Tim.3

[3] Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
[8] Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;
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[7] For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;
[11] Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
1Pet.5

[2] Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;

In reference to the bold passage, a bishop teaching a false doctrine (tithing) for what reason? The obvious answer is filthy lucre.

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Brother Nicodemus,

You should really study the instructions of Paul to the elders of the church of Ephesus.

Acts 20

[17] And from Miletus he sent to Ephesus, and called the elders of the church.

In particular this passage. . .

33] I have coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel.
[34] Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me.

AND this . . .

[35] I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

He is telling them to work with their own hands. And he says that they should support the weak. In our churches today we have widows supporting the pastor. Paul is exhorting the pastors to support the weak.

Somebody has it backwards.

Is it us?

Or is it Paul?

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