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02-27-2014, 05:44 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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Well women are right sometimes, God told Abraham to listen to his wife...ha....blessings to all....
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Sara called Abraham lord (G2962)... ha...
G2962
κύριος
kurios
Thayer Definition:
1) he to whom a person or thing belongs, about which he has power of deciding; master, lord
1a) the possessor and disposer of a thing
1a1) the owner; one who has control of the person, the master
1a2) in the state: the sovereign, prince, chief, the Roman emperor
1b) is a title of honour expressive of respect and reverence, with which servants greet their master
1c) this title is given to: God, the Messiah
Yeah, blessings to all.
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02-27-2014, 05:46 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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The angel spoke to Sampson's mother. And not his father.....strange to some ....
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God called 12 men to follow Him while he walked the earth.
The patriarchs of Israel were 12 men.
The Levitical priesthood was accomplished through men.
Strange to some...
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02-27-2014, 05:47 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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Guess the poor angle made a mistake giving instructions to a woman...and on the ressurection morning Jesus must have made that same mistake...lol...
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I guess God made a mistake calling only men to follow him... lol...
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02-27-2014, 05:49 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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Originally Posted by Abiding Now
Resurrection Sunday Morning Service
Sis. Mary (mother of James) approaches the pulpit with Scroll in hand and says "this morning I want to deliver to you all what the angels, Oh Praise the Lord! Did ya hear me! ANGELS,...Ha! has given to Sis Mary Magdalene and Sis. Joanna and myself, Oh Glory! Somebody SHOUT AMEN! Ha Ha!". She continued to preach to the Eleven Disciples and those gathered both men and women and slapping the pulpit she told about how SHE had "seen TWO! Not just one little ANGEL, BUT TWO!  Ya hear meeeeeee TWO ANGELS!"
Well maybe it wasn't quiet like that............... 
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02-27-2014, 07:36 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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... Romans 16:1-2 reads that Phoebe had labored with the Apostle.
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I notices a similarity in the terms used in Rom 16 and Acts 6.
Rom 16:1.. ..I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant (diakonos) of the church which is at Cenchrea.
Act 6:2 Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples unto them, and said, It is not reason that we should leave the word of God, and serve (diakoneō) tables.
Rom 16:2.. ..That ye receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever business she hath need of you: for she hath been a succourer of many, and of myself also.
Act 6:3.. ..Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business.
The men who were appointed over serving tables were NO more preaching tables than the women in listed in Luke 8:3, were preaching (diakoneō) unto Christ of their substance. They men were over serving tables in Acts 6 just as the women were ministering/serving Him of their substance in Luke 8:3. What they were responsible for was labeled business in Acts 6 just as Paul encouraged the Romans to assist Phebe in her business. In all three places is was ministering-serving-assisting so others could more effectively perform their duties. In the specific cases, it was serving and not preaching!
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02-27-2014, 07:52 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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If anyone were to ask me of an example of the spirit of this text being portrayed in someone's life...I could not think of a finer example than Sister Alvear...at least from what I have seen.
Pray for you and your work often.
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Then here, have another look:
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Guess the poor angle made a mistake giving instructions to a woman...and on the ressurection morning Jesus must have made that same mistake...lol...
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Yea' - real "example" of unity, humility & sweetness eh' ?
Some of us simply have the intuition to see through her ruse.
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It was Esther that He chose to preserve a nation. It was to Samson’s mother not his father that the angel gave instructions. When the priest and scribe asked for a word from the Lord they came to Huldah. It was to her and not to her husband, nor to the prophet Jeremiah that the word of the Lord came. Abraham heard God say, "Listen to Sarah's voice. Romans 16:1-2 reads that Phoebe had labored with the Apostle.
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LOL....Keep on' Keepin' On Sis. Still won't say what you want it to say - even when you're finished swatting at shadows (not to mention how many times we have exegetically debunked your textual errors) !
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02-27-2014, 07:57 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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Originally Posted by Abiding Now
Resurrection Sunday Morning Service
Sis. Mary (mother of James) approaches the pulpit with Scroll in hand and says "this morning I want to deliver to you all what the angels, Oh Praise the Lord! Did ya hear me! ANGELS,...Ha! has given to Sis Mary Magdalene and Sis. Joanna and myself, Oh Glory! Somebody SHOUT AMEN! Ha Ha!". She continued to preach to the Eleven Disciples and those gathered both men and women and slapping the pulpit she told about how SHE had "seen TWO! Not just one little ANGEL, BUT TWO!  Ya hear meeeeeee TWO ANGELS!"
Well maybe it wasn't quiet like that............... 
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Now, Now - You know that anyone who speaks about the risen Savior is automatically in the official capacity of the teaching Eldership in the NT church!
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02-27-2014, 08:26 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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I notices a similarity in the terms used in Rom 16 and Acts 6.
Rom 16:1.. ..I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant (diakonos) of the church which is at Cenchrea.
Act 6:2 Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples unto them, and said, It is not reason that we should leave the word of God, and serve (diakoneō) tables.
Rom 16:2.. ..That ye receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever business she hath need of you: for she hath been a succourer of many, and of myself also.
Act 6:3.. ..Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business.
The men who were appointed over serving tables were NO more preaching tables than the women in listed in Luke 8:3, were preaching (diakoneō) unto Christ of their substance. They men were over serving tables in Acts 6 just as the women were ministering/serving Him of their substance in Luke 8:3. What they were responsible for was labeled business in Acts 6 just as Paul encouraged the Romans to assist Phebe in her business. In all three places is was ministering-serving-assisting so others could more effectively perform their duties. In the specific cases, it was serving and not preaching!
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So true Elder - But she has been told this over & over & over:
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Original Word: διάκονος, οῦ, ὁ, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine; Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: diakonos
Phonetic Spelling: (dee-ak'-on-os)
Short Definition: a waiter, servant, administrator
Definition: a waiter, servant; then of any one who performs any service, an administrator.
Grammarian, Dr. A. T. Robertson, "1249 (diákonos) properly means 'to kick up dust,' as one running an errand."
Renown linguist Dr. Joseph Thayer, "a deaconess (ministra, Pliny, epistles 10, 97), a woman to whom the care of either poor or sick women was entrusted, Romans 16:1 (cf. Dictionaries as above, under the word ; Lightfoot as above, p. 191; B. D. under the word ).
Sorry Sister - women "preaching-teaching" men from the Scriptures is simply not there .
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Are you now telling us that Phoebe was a "ruler" over Paul....For he goes on to say in the same verse, "including myself also" ??
See the translations below:
New Living Translation
Welcome her in the Lord as one who is worthy of honor among God's people. Help her in whatever she needs, for she has been helpful to many, and especially to me.
New American Standard Bible
that you receive her in the Lord in a manner worthy of the saints, and that you help her in whatever matter she may have need of you; for she herself has also been a helper of many, and of myself as well.
King James Bible
That ye receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever business she hath need of you: for she hath been a succourer of many, and of myself also.
International Standard Version
Welcome her in the Lord as is appropriate for saints, and provide her with anything she may need from you, for she has assisted many people, including me.
NET Bible
so that you may welcome her in the Lord in a way worthy of the saints and provide her with whatever help she may need from you, for she has been a great help to many, including me.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
That you would accept her in Our Lord, as that is right for Saints, and in any matter that she seeks of you, that you would help her, because she is also a helper to many and also to me.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
Give her a Christian welcome that shows you are God's holy people. Provide her with anything she may need, because she has provided help to many people, including me.
Jubilee Bible 2000
that ye receive her in the Lord as a worthy saint, and that ye assist her in whatever thing in which she has need of you, for she has been a helper of many and of myself also.
King James 2000 Bible
That you receive her in the Lord, as becomes saints, and that you assist her in whatever business she has need of you: for she has been a helper of many, and of myself also.
American King James Version
That you receive her in the Lord, as becomes saints, and that you assist her in whatever business she has need of you: for she has been a succorer of many, and of myself also.
American Standard Version
that ye receive her in the Lord, worthily of the saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever matter she may have need of you: for she herself also hath been a helper of many, and of mine own self.
Douay-Rheims Bible
That you receive her in the Lord as becometh saints; and that you assist her in whatsoever business she shall have need of you. For she also hath assisted many, and myself also.
Darby Bible Translation
that ye may receive her in the Lord worthily of saints, and that ye may assist her in whatever matter she has need of you; for she also has been a helper of many, and of myself.
English Revised Version
that ye receive her in the Lord, worthily of the saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever matter she may have need of you: for she herself also hath been a succourer of many, and of mine own self.
Webster's Bible Translation
That ye receive her in the Lord, as it becometh saints, and that ye assist her in whatever business she hath need of you: for she hath been a succorer of many, and of myself also.
Weymouth New Testament
that you may receive her as a fellow Christian in a manner worthy of God's people, and may assist her in any matter in which she may need help. For she has indeed been a kind friend to many, including myself.
World English Bible
that you receive her in the Lord, in a way worthy of the saints, and that you assist her in whatever matter she may need from you, for she herself also has been a helper of many, and of my own self.
Phoebe was a "helper" (not Paul's or anyone else's "ruler") - this is precisely what the Greek word denotes - as is demonstrated in all of the translations above, which combines hundreds of professional linguists & translators (working both independent of & in conjunction with one another) 
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She will never recant, no matter how much biblical, exegetical, & syntactical evidence we may provide:
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Really I will never change my opinion or belief because I know God called me when I was 8 years old to be a missionary
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Sad......
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02-27-2014, 08:41 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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So true Elder - But she has been told this over & over & over:
She will never recant, no matter how much biblical, exegetical, & syntactical evidence we may provide:
Sad......
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02-27-2014, 09:10 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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Branhamites have so many false doctrine from individual predestination, to Eve having sex with the devil. Goofy.
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hmm, that sounds awful judgemental? Before you were born, I knew you? I don't buy sex with the devil now, but the fruit of the tree of k of g&e can only be conjectured upon, apparently. apple; spiritual rep of gaining a frontal lobe, or sex (or some fornication) with satan, really, whose guess is best? The nephilim's punishment might suggest that God would not allow it; but Cain, and the fact that satan is already condemned to abaddon actually sway me in that direction now and then. You cannot know.
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