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[Sean]

.....Which is far better than preterism, which is mostly wrong.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Sean

Also, as per the Apostle Peter, do preterists(you included) tell people that this......




10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11 Seeing then that all these things(temple/Law/Jews) shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?




Is meant by Peter to say this?.....



10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the TEMPLE shall pass away with a great noise, and the LAW shall melt with fervent heat, the JEWS also and the LAW that are therein shall be burned up.

11 Seeing then that all these things(temple/Law/Jews) shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the TEMPLE being on fire shall be dissolved, and the LAW/JEWS shall melt with fervent heat?


Of course you think the latter says that.

You are part of an entire religion that tells folks the words of Jesus and the Apostles say that.

Speaking of preterism, did you know that preterist, Dominic Benincasa, believes the latter(enlarged above)?

[Sean]

....he will go bonkers on me for posting this fact, but will not deny it.

It is a secret teaching that preterists have, which is not appropriate for scrutiny on the forum to them.

They teach that Jesus and Peter, etc., spoke in "code" to each other and to the churches about the Jews and the Law.


Preterist code talkers, unscrambled and desciphered....


Heaven=Temple/Law

Earth=Jew

[Sean]

How Heaven and Earth Passed Away!....



https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...Fgs7GNq_h8sZDc








LOL!!!

[houston]

LOL

[Sean]

L(augh) A(t) B(enincasa).

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sean

Of course it is faith based.

Just like you.

You believe every man with a PHD in his field is 100% accurate.

Your Geologist that teaches the earth and humans are multiple billions of years old is gospel to you.

All of these "specialists" are your elders in higher learning and they are never wrong, nor can be.

I really should not question the PHD in front of you, lest I damage your faith in higher learning and you backslide from their teachings.

Sean, where did you answer Esaias and myself? Sean, there is not one shred of evidence to prove your position. Which isn't anything new. You always make yourself look bad. Sean, the study of ancient languages aren't on the same level as Evolution. But, you can't understand that because in your world its just you make it up as you go along. You can't defend your position because your position isn't fact based but feeling based.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sean

Your gospel of Mr. Strong has Greek words and a wonderful variety of English meanings, many which are not in the KJV.

Meanings, you mean definitions. Sean, you do understand that every word in every language has a many different "definitions." You posted that you use an old dictionary? Well, the Webster's Dictionary of 1828 which the KJV Onlyists worship has 22 definitions for the word "WORLD." Yet, you don't even understand something as benign as a dictionary? You are going to straighten anyone out on eschatology? On the godhead? On Biblical tithing? On marriage? Sean, you are a special kind of stupid, someone who doesn't care about anything other than what you feel at the moment. Below I posted the page of the Webster's Dictionary of 1828. Please clarify and point out the "redefinitions" which you accuse the Strong's Dictionary of having. I truly believe all would like to see the evidence for your claims.


WORLD, noun [This seems to be a compound word, and probably is named from roundness, the vault; but this is not certain.]

1. The universe; the whole system of created globes or vast bodies of matter.

2. The earth; the terraqueous globe; sometimes called the lower world

3. The heavens; as when we speak of the heavenly world or upper world

4. System of beings; or the orbs which occupy space, and all the beings which inhabit them. Hebrews 11:7.

God--hath in these last days spoken to us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things; by whom also he made the worlds. Hebrews 1:6.

There may be other worlds, where the inhabitants have never violated their allegiance to their Almighty sovereign.

5. Present state of existence; as while we are in the world

Behold, these are the ungodly who prosper in the world Psalms 73:12.

6. A secular life. By the world we sometimes understand the things of this world its pleasures and interests. A great part of mankind are more anxious to enjoy the world to than secure divine favor.

7. Public life, or society; as banished from the world

8. Business or trouble of life.

From this world-wearied flesh.

9. A great multitude or quantity; as a world of business; a world of charms.

10. Mankind; people in general; in an indefinite sense. Let the world see your fortitude.

Whose disposition, all the world well knows--

11. Course of life. He begins the world with little property, but with many friends.

12. Universal empire.

This through the east just vengeance hurld, and lost poor Antony the world

13. The customs and manners of men; the practice of life. A knowledge of the world is necessary for a man of business; it is essential to politeness.

14. All the world contains.

Had I a thousand worlds, I would give them all for one year more to devote to God.

15. The principal nations or countries of the earth. Alexander conquered the world

16. The Roman empire.

17. A large tract of country; a wide compass of things.

I must descry new worlds.

18. The inhabitants of the earth; the whole human race. John 3:16.

19. The carnal state or corruption of the earth; as the present evil world; the course of this world Galatians 1:4. Ephesians 2:2.

20. The ungodly part of the world

I pray not for the world but for them that thou hast given men. John 17:5.

21. Time; as in the phrase, world without end.

22. A collection of wonders. [Not in use.]

In the world in possibility. [All the precaution in the world would not save him.]

For all the world

1. Exactly. [Little used.]

2. For any consideration.

Originally Posted by Sean

It is a smorgasbord of redefinitions for the fun loving closet translator and minister that is always bringing something new and different to a congregation that is bored stiff with his teachings .,...

Did Elder Marvin Treece redefine the Greek? A smorgasbord of redefinitions? You just accuse, but seriously, you never prove anything you post? I bet you talk over your opposition when you are in one of your Bible battles? Or do you raise your voice? So, to shout down your opposition? Whatever, please provide what you mean by redefinitions which make the verses say something different. Also can you tell us how many revisions were done to the AV? Do you currently read the original 1611? 1612, 1613, 1616, 1629, 1638, or 1769? Do you understand that the original scholars who compiled and interpreted the Greek, Aramaic, and Hebrew into 17th century English, encouraged others to continue their work and create more translations?
That they themselves felt that they weren't finished, but that future generations with more material, and information would be able to strengthen what the early translators began?

Originally Posted by Sean

Also, I dont read Greek.

Obviously you also struggle with reading an English dictionary? Since you don't understand how dictionaries, lexicons, and concordances are put together. Get yourself a Webster's Dictionary of 1828 and lay it next to a Greek or Hebrew dictionary. You will notice that both have definitions for words, some have maybe one line, and others have many. Like the English word "World," found in the Webster's Dictionary of 1828

Originally Posted by Sean

It has already been translated into English by proper translators in 1611 for me.

Yet, you have absolutely no idea how that came to be. You posted that you just believe it in faith? Therefore you want to fight anyone who asks you to present reasons for that faith. Yet, you give no reasonable answer, but just mock the questioner? Sean, you are a coward, and i don't need to point that out. Because you have left yourself quite a record of your immature banter. Esaias asked you questions and knew good and well that you would chicken out. You left the forum because a grandchild was born? I guess that was a save?

Originally Posted by Sean

I read English.

Well, we all know that's debatable.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Sean

....he will go bonkers on me for posting this fact, but will not deny it.

It is a secret teaching that preterists have, which is not appropriate for scrutiny on the forum to them.

They teach that Jesus and Peter, etc., spoke in "code" to each other and to the churches about the Jews and the Law.


Preterist code talkers, unscrambled and desciphered....


Heaven=Temple/Law

Earth=Jew

As I predicted, DB avoids his silly Preterist doctrine on the forum.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Sean

How Heaven and Earth Passed Away!....



https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...Fgs7GNq_h8sZDc








LOL!!!

This is exactly what DB believes and teaches, and as I predicted, avoided this fact and ran away as fast as possible. He hopes this crazy doctrine of his gets buried in other subjects.

Poor DB, he can only discuss this belief system to "seasoned" or mushhead Preterists, but not to all of us on AFF.