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It was too complicated for William Branham.




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So gay...or a drug dealer...or OR both!!!!
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He is a Jesuit.
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I was very disappointed. May be philosophically "complex" but would be no help at all sharing the Oneness of God with Trinitarians.
Just tell them that the logos was an angel suit that God created before anything was created. Then tell them that God got into His angel suit and started creating all that was made. Then when they ask you to explain Hebrews 1:2 and why ages is implied. You can tell them that the angel suit was begotten in ages past.

Yes, your way is so simple.
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Well yes that exactly what Paul said.

Heb. 1:1-3

1God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

I agree with Paul. You do not.
Mike, what did Paul mean by ages?
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Mike, what did Paul mean by ages?
Interesting Dom. You and I both scanning this particular thread at exactly the same time last night.

Lets look at a few other Bible versions.

New International Version
but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.

New Living Translation
And now in these final days, he has spoken to us through his Son. God promised everything to the Son as an inheritance, and through the Son he created the universe.

English Standard Version
but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.

Berean Study Bible
But in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe.


New American Standard Bible
in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.

New King James Version
has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;

King James Bible
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Christian Standard Bible
In these last days, he has spoken to us by his Son. God has appointed him heir of all things and made the universe through him.

Contemporary English Version
But now at last, God sent his Son to bring his message to us. God created the universe by his Son, and everything will someday belong to the Son.

Good News Translation
but in these last days he has spoken to us through his Son. He is the one through whom God created the universe, the one whom God has chosen to possess all things at the end.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
In these last days, He has spoken to us by His Son. God has appointed Him heir of all things and made the universe through him.

International Standard Version
has in these last days spoken to us by a Son whom he appointed to be the heir of everything and through whom he also made the universe.

NET Bible
in these last days he has spoken to us in a son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he created the world.

New Heart English Bible
in these last days has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the ages.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And in these last days he has spoken with us by his Son, whom he ordained The Heir of all things, and by him he made the universe.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
In these last days he has spoken to us through his Son. God made his Son responsible for everything. His Son is the one through whom God made the universe.

New American Standard 1977
in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.

Jubilee Bible 2000
has in these last times spoken unto us by his Son, whom he has appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the ages;

King James 2000 Bible
Has in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he has appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

American King James Version
Has in these last days spoken to us by his Son, whom he has appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

American Standard Version
hath at the end of these days spoken unto us in his'son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the worlds;


Douay-Rheims Bible
In these days hath spoken to us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the world.

Darby Bible Translation
at the end of these days has spoken to us in [the person of the] Son, whom he has established heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

English Revised Version
hath at the end of these days spoken unto us in his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the worlds;

Webster's Bible Translation
Hath in these last days spoken to us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Weymouth New Testament
has at the end of these days spoken to us through a Son, who is the pre-destined Lord of the universe, and through whom He made the Ages.

World English Bible
has at the end of these days spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the worlds.

Young's Literal Translation
in these last days did speak to us in a Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He did make the ages;

29 Bible Versions Dom.

Out of 29 version only 5 use the word "ages" in the verse. This seems to be a big issue for you.

How about this. I will tell why God made the worlds and you can tell why God made the ages!
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Interesting Dom. You and I both scanning this particular thread at exactly the same time last night.
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Lets look at a few other Bible versions.
Bible versions which use three different English words? Mike, why would you attempt to show different versions of English translations? Obviously since they don't agree you have a problem. Is this what you do in public Bible discussions out on the street? A bit of advise if I may, this isn't a good way to answer a inquiry. Because when you were asked about a specific word you don't answer, you enlist the help of multiple translations. Which apparently disagree. This is where question begging begins. Obviously the translations are confusing, and some of the translations got the Greek of the verse totally wrong. Since Hebrews 1:2 uses a word (αἰῶνας) which is defined in the Greek dictionary as length of time. Not a universe, and not the cosmos, but a time period of any length.


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29 Bible Versions Dom.

Out of 29 version only 5 use the word "ages" in the verse. This seems to be a big issue for you.
The above made no sense, because you leave out the "why" you gave me the versions of English. How about Spanish translations? How about Italian? Mike, are you trying to show me that 29 versions don't agree? that out of those 29 versions we have translators which were confused on what αἰῶνας means? I can see you don't Bible study with real people who are unchurched or non Christians. Because right about now, you would be hitting a wall with them. They ask you about one word (you started threads about you learning Greek meanings) but instead of handling that, or knowing why the KJV uses the English word WORLD in different ways. You end up bringing up a rabbit trail which leads to another discussion. One where you will be unable to continue the Bible study. Because those who would be asking you the questions, are now being told that they are the ones with the big issues.
Mike, either you know or you do not, people respect that. Mike, why the 29 version? One question, did you understand the question? Or do you not know the answer? A big deal for me? Laughable, the big deal is when people at the open air Bible study get up and walk away, because of your ecclesiastical narcissism.

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How about this. I will tell why God made the worlds and you can tell why God made the ages!
How about this, just answer the question.
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