Supreme Court to Hear Case on Obama

[Newman]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

If Obama was born in Kenya, he's still American because of his mother's American status.

Coadie can show you the actual laws at the time. I think he already posted about it on this thread. Perhaps he can point us back to it.

1. Because mom was a certain age; she could not pass on American citizenship to a child born outside the country.

2. EVEN if Obama was born in Hawaii; he is not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN as the Constitution requires because his father was a British citizen with an allegiance to another country. The founding fathers were grandfathered from this requirement as none of them would have otherwise qualified.

3. By the time this was ready for the Supreme Court to address it was probably too hot a potato for them to want to handle.

4. Nevertheless, things just got more interesting with the military changing Major Stefan's orders rather than expecting Obama to prove his qualification to be president in court. Looks like a great get out of war card which someone else is likely to attempt again in the future.

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Twisp

It was not asked of me, but since I think it is a non-issue as well, I can try to answer.

The reason it is a non-issue to the vast majority of Americans, our Court system, and the Federal Election Commission is that all available proof points to Barak Obama meeting all requirements to be President of the United States.

If there was substantial proof that he was not eligible, it would then become a major issue until he was removed.

As it stands, there is no smoking gun proving his lack of requirements. Thus, there is no story there and no issue.

Twisp- What is your actual answer? Do you not think it an issue because others don't; or do you think it not an issue because he put up something on a website?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Twisp

Except there is no proof that he is not qualified, thus making him qualified.

Unless you are speaking about his policy, which has little bearing on this thread. Even then, that would be a matter of your personal opinion.

You are being dishonest again. You also made a claim totally unsupported by law.

More ignorance from you

You are not presumed to be a citizen unless proven otherwise. It doesn't work that way
If you have a job, which may be doubtful. You were not presumed to be a citizen. Obama has never had a regular job.

The boss makes you show a passport or 2 other items. ID showing you are the name you give and another piece like a Ss card for which you had to show a birth certificate. Getting a SS card DOES NOT validitate the birth certificate'svalidity.

You can't prove daffy duck isn't qualified so that doesn't profer the presumption of natural born citizenship for daffy duck.

Your opinions are personal and of low quality.

I won't even give them the significance of asking you to quote a law that tells us we are presumed to be exgible for the office of POTUS until disprove.

If you ry o get a job, thry hat. ell hem you are a ciizen and don' have o prove it. If they can't disprove it, then the fact remains.

We don't use snopes or dailykos for laws

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by Newman

Coadie can show you the actual laws at the time. I think he already posted about it on this thread. Perhaps he can point us back to it.

1. Because mom was a certain age; she could not pass on American citizenship to a child born outside the country.

2. EVEN if Obama was born in Hawaii; he is not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN as the Constitution requires because his father was a British citizen with an allegiance to another country. The founding fathers were grandfathered from this requirement as none of them would have otherwise qualified.

3. By the time this was ready for the Supreme Court to address it was probably too hot a potato for them to want to handle.

4. Nevertheless, things just got more interesting with the military changing Major Stefan's orders rather than expecting Obama to prove his qualification to be president in court. Looks like a great get out of war card which someone else is likely to attempt again in the future.

That is not true. The 14th amendment clearly states that:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

Moreover, the Civil Rights Act of 1886 clearly states "that all persons born in the United States not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed," were citizens of the United States. Such citizens were "of every race and color" and "without regard to any previous condition of slavery or involuntary servitude."

Obama's parent's citizenship did not preclude him from being a US born citizen. He is a citizen by virtue of being born in the United States.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by Newman

Twisp- What is your actual answer? Do you not think it an issue because others don't; or do you think it not an issue because he put up something on a website?

The answer is in the post. Because there is no proof, it is not an issue.

Originally Posted by Twisp

The reason it is a non-issue to the vast majority of Americans, our Court system, and the Federal Election Commission is that all available proof points to Barak Obama meeting all requirements to be President of the United States.

At the point where there is proof, it will become an issue.

Originally Posted by Twisp

As it stands, there is no smoking gun proving his lack of requirements. Thus, there is no story there and no issue.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by coadie

You are being dishonest again. You also made a claim totally unsupported by law.

More ignorance from you

You are not presumed to be a citizen unless proven otherwise. It doesn't work that way
If you have a job, which may be doubtful. You were not presumed to be a citizen. Obama has never had a regular job.

The boss makes you show a passport or 2 other items. ID showing you are the name you give and another piece like a Ss card for which you had to show a birth certificate. Getting a SS card DOES NOT validitate the birth certificate'svalidity.

You can't prove daffy duck isn't qualified so that doesn't profer the presumption of natural born citizenship for daffy duck.

Your opinions are personal and of low quality.

I won't even give them the significance of asking you to quote a law that tells us we are presumed to be exgible for the office of POTUS until disprove.

If you ry o get a job, thry hat. ell hem you are a ciizen and don' have o prove it. If they can't disprove it, then the fact remains.

We don't use snopes or dailykos for laws

Lol, it must really stick in your craw that he won the election. I can't think of any other reason for a person to stick their head in the sand like you do.

Obviously, his qualifications were in order, otherwise he would not have been allowed to be president.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Newman

Twisp- What is your actual answer? Do you not think it an issue because others don't; or do you think it not an issue because he put up something on a website?

You can't expect an honest or straight answer. closest you will get is a suggested link to snopes, daily koss or some other low grade farce.

Annenberg for whom felon Bill ayers and Mortgage fraud Obama worked own factcheck.org Inferior people should go to Obama's site and believe what they are told. click here for free Koolaid coupons.



Obama preeching tonight. Some TEEVVEE addicts are getting wearing of his babbling.

Fox declined outright to air the news conference. NBC and ABC fell into line late Monday after the White House shifted the event's time from the previously announced 9 p.m. to the lesser-watched hour of 8 p.m.

The stakes were particularly high for NBC, which airs the most-watched show of the summer, "America's Got Talent," at 9 p.m. This week, the reality hit includes a heavily promoted interview with "Britain's Got Talent" singing sensation Susan Boyle

The great ORATOR will blaim President Bush, make huge promises of hopes and dreams and make Drones have major leg tingle events.

[gloryseeker]

Originally Posted by Twisp

Except there is no proof that he is not qualified, thus making him qualified.

Unless you are speaking about his policy, which has little bearing on this thread. Even then, that would be a matter of your personal opinion.

Hello......got some coffee here.....look at the economy, look at unemployment, look at the national debt, look at the increase in terrorist attacks around the world, the increase in N. Korea's activities, and on and on and on ---- oh yeah, look in the guys eyes he is clearly over his head and capabilities thus resulting in extraordinarily stressed

[coadie]

Originally Posted by gloryseeker

Hello......got some coffee here.....look at the economy, look at unemployment, look at the national debt, look at the increase in terrorist attacks around the world, the increase in N. Korea's activities, and on and on and on ---- oh yeah, look in the guys eyes he is clearly over his head and capabilities thus resulting in extraordinarily stressed

But we have a tax cheat running the IRS and he appointed a very chubby surgeon general.

Laissez le bon temps rouler

[gloryseeker]

I can't for the life of me remember who shared this, but I remember back in the 70's or 80's that someone shared a dream or vision they had of the last days.

They depicted the mass populations as almost robotic, like hypnotized, moving about as drones doing what the government said.

I never bought into it because my thinking was kind of like the Star Trek episode where people blindly walked into incinerators having been drugged or something.

I have in the past year changed my position. It is apparent that people are now doing this. They look at world leaders, such as an Obama and become mesmerized by him. The same can be said of Sarah Palin with many Republicans. It is easy to see how the "man of sin" will come on the scene and the masses will believe anything he says.

Many Americans, enough to vote an unqualified person into office based on rhetoric, fell hook, line, and sinker for a person whose agenda is to do so many anti biblical things such as abort babies in greater numbers, deny health care to the elderly, and enslave a population to government control.