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Old 02-15-2007, 12:12 PM
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where can I take this personality test online?
dude, just smell you arm pit. if you stink, you probaly need to see a shrink.
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Old 02-15-2007, 12:15 PM
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dude, just smell you arm pit. if you stink, you probaly need to see a shrink.
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Old 02-15-2007, 01:18 PM
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I know one thing. Understanding your customer and their specific personality traits is a must.

See when you earn your living by selling to people.

You will learn how to deal with folks on the spot.

Or you will not earn a living.

I think being in sales for 10 plus years is setting me up to be very successful in a ministry.

You will get to know traits in a person upon meeting them.

Otherwise if you don't learn their traits you do not know how to adjust yours to work with them.

Have you ever known someone to just be able to make everyone feel comfortable?

If they are in the ministry they become very effective.

The ministers who do not have enough of this or enough of that...In my book they just are not good studies of human character.

I think that hurts their effectiveness....

Nathan Eckstadt
This is true. Are you familiar with the reading of a persons face? I have heard salesmen use this.

Example given me was if a person's forehead slants back then you aren't going to get anything over on them. They have a sharp mind.
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Old 02-15-2007, 01:24 PM
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Just a little thought for those of you who like to read people....It doesn't always work....I have been misread many of times and people think they know me and they really don't have a clue about me....

someone I know is like soooooooooo into this personality thing that when my husband and I told them that one of our dreams was to live in a log home in the mountains, they argued with us and said we weren't log home people. I laughed soo hard...WE've planned on living that dream more than anyother and then someone wants to tell us that that isn't us and we aren't log home people....lolol....and this person claims that he reads people like a book. Just be careful....You can generally tell what type of people you are dealing with but don't assume you know a person just because they show a few traits of some plegcholersangmel attribute......
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Old 02-15-2007, 01:30 PM
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Just a little thought for those of you who like to read people....It doesn't always work....I have been misread many of times and people think they know me and they really don't have a clue about me....

someone I know is like soooooooooo into this personality thing that when my husband and I told them that one of our dreams was to live in a log home in the mountains, they argued with us and said we weren't log home people. I laughed soo hard...WE've planned on living that dream more than anyother and then someone wants to tell us that that isn't us and we aren't log home people....lolol....and this person claims that he reads people like a book. Just be careful....You can generally tell what type of people you are dealing with but don't assume you know a person just because they show a few traits of some plegcholersangmel attribute......
I think part of the problem is not all the testing is equal. And not all testers are honest in their answers, which will throw the test.

Most people are not full fledge of any temperament. A few are but most of us are a blend.

I have studied the temperaments and have seen where there are advantages is using them. Like determining the field of someone going to work.

But again as I said before it means nothing if the tester doesn't answer the questions honestly. For some reason we seem to think we should answer according to our perception of what a good answer would be.

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Old 02-15-2007, 01:42 PM
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Our youth pastor recently resigned, so we are looking to hire a new one. When the Church Board sat down to figure what questions they wanted to ask of any applicants, one of the things they decided to do is to give every applicant a personality profile test. The last guy we had was soooooooo shy and unsure of himself, it was pitiful. We need someone who is much more outgoing and confident. They think they will be able to determine that better with the test. We'll see
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I have been thinking about peoples ability as it relates to God and service in the church. This Sunday my pastor made a comment in his sermon that has really been with me, kind of connecting the dots. He said that often times you find someone with less ability working in a church while a real talent sits on the pew. The difference is one stepped up.

That got me thinking about the bible and the people God used. Samuel was an orphan. David was a kid with much more talented, stronger, OLDER brothers. Gideon was a nobody afraid of his own shadow. Peter was “an ignorant and unlearned man”….and a loudmouth coward…. Paul was a murderer….What was it about these guys that made them so used? I think really their common ability was availability.

My pastor has preached about people having talent, but because they are unfaithful he will not use them and instead will use someone with less talent because they are faithful and do the job giving God the glory. He's told stories of people actually getting mad because he wouldn't give them an invitation to sing a solo or somthing when they had an awesome voice.

I do agree that there are people that could be used, but don't either step up or have the availabity. Sometimes (well, actually alot lately) I feel that with me having a full time 9-5 it limits my availability to do God's work, I get really upset cause I know that I have talents that he's given me and I want to put them in use, but my schedule limits me SOOOO badly. (here I'm getting upset just thinking of it) The Lord has given me a great ability to go out and teach bible studies and win souls... but my only availability is at night and that doesn't leave much open.... oh well, I know he'll open up a door when the time is right, he IS an on time God.


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Old 02-15-2007, 02:11 PM
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I think part of the problem is not all the testing is equal. And not all testers are honest in their answers, which will throw the test.

Most people are not full fledge of any temperament. A few are but most of us are a blend.

I have studied the temperaments and have seen where there are advantages is using them. Like determining the field of someone going to work.

But again as I said before it means nothing if the tester doesn't answer the questions honestly. For some reason we seem to think we should answer according to our perception of what a good answer would be.

JMO

Right....the "tests" we took showed that most people were a combo of 2 out of the 4. My husband was one that they knew they had figured out. They tried to tell him what he was by what they see. I found it hilarious because I knew him and they were soo off but they insisted they knew what they were talking about.....lol....some people just don't get it.
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Old 02-15-2007, 02:27 PM
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I told them that one of our dreams was to live in a log home in the mountains, ......
My wife and I love Log Homes!!!
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Old 02-15-2007, 02:43 PM
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Right....the "tests" we took showed that most people were a combo of 2 out of the 4. My husband was one that they knew they had figured out. They tried to tell him what he was by what they see. I found it hilarious because I knew him and they were soo off but they insisted they knew what they were talking about.....lol....some people just don't get it.
Actually, you can be a blend of more than 2.

I know I am a blend of 3. Woe is me.
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