Christmas is pagan

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Ferd

if you don't celebrate Christmas you aren't going to heaven.

[Sean]

All the killjoys here just ruined my xmas....LOL

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Ferd

if you don't celebrate Christmas you aren't going to heaven.

That will preach!

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Sean

All the killjoys here just ruined my xmas....LOL

I look at Christmas like it is just a cultural winter festival with elements of religion, ancient pagan customs that have become mere decorations, and secular marketing. I don't fault Christians who don't participate. Neither do I judge Christians who do. Because of this, it's truly a universal winter festival everyone can enjoy, both the Christian and the non-Christian.

[Esaias]

[n david]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Missed a part... If people are going to condemn trees, don't be talking about Blood Moons and other signs, because that's what the heathen do.

Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

I don't have a tree, but I'm not going to condemn someone who does. The "custom of the people are in vain." Doesn't say it's an abomination or sin to do so, just that those who do this as a matter and means of idolatrous worship do so in vain.

3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

It continues...

They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.

IE...Christmas trees are useless. Also, don't be afraid of them. They can't do evil or good.

Probably because they're TREES.

[Scott Pitta]

Do not learn the ways of the heathen. Does that include communicating via social media ????


Ho Ho Ho Merry Christmas

[Apostolic1ness]

wonder how many of our children play with graven images made in the likeness of any living thing that is on the earth? that was bought for christmas Exodus20:4

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by n david

Missed a part... If people are going to condemn trees, don't be talking about Blood Moons and other signs, because that's what the heathen do.

I agree.

The "custom of the people are in vain." Doesn't say it's an abomination or sin to do so, just that those who do this as a matter and means of idolatrous worship do so in vain.

Psalm 24 identifies those who will ascend the hill of the Lord and stand in His holy place are those who have not lifted up their soul to vanity. This includes idolatrous heathen religious practices. The customs of the heathen are vain - empty, dead, purposeless - and we are commanded not to follow their example.

IE...Christmas trees are useless. Also, don't be afraid of them. They can't do evil or good.

Probably because they're TREES.

Fear in a religious context includes reverence. People who do the tree thing do indeed "reverence" the tree. Proof is right there in the other thread "We ain't putting up Xmas trees" or whatever it's called. The pro-tree crowd demonstrated their rather vociferous reverence of Christmas traditions, including the demonic phallus-tree.

The issue isnt a tree's inherent value. After all, "idols are nothing" but does that mean we can set up golden Buddhas and burn incense to them, spin the prayer wheel, draw the chalk mandala, and chant "Hare Jesus, Jesus Jesus, Hare Hare, Hare Jesus" and say we are delivered to do all these things?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

Do not learn the ways of the heathen. Does that include communicating via social media ????


Ho Ho Ho Merry Christmas

Social media is no different than speaking with one another in the gates. It is not inherently a pagan religious custom, like BaalMass.