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Old 11-28-2007, 09:57 AM
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Are these guys in REBELLION???
Is that a town in Texas???

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Old 11-28-2007, 10:10 AM
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Is that a town in Texas???

Ha!



We have the redneck Rebel Flag thing down here in Tejas. They should use that combined with the Christian flag as their banner! LOL

Somebody good with graphics should post their idea of a Flag for them!

Along with their motto:

THE HOLIER GOSPEL TO A GOOD PART OF THE WHOLE WORLD!

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Old 11-28-2007, 10:39 AM
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Are these guys in REBELLION???
Rebellion to what???? NO organization has Divine Authority.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:51 AM
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A very wise thing for a man of his stature.
A good man indeed.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:58 AM
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Rebellion to what???? NO organization has Divine Authority.
They don't???

When I was little, I remember being absolutely devastated as we passed the Baptist church with its parking filled to capacity and thinking,

"Dear God, all of those poor people are going straight to HELL!"

But I think many UPCI folks really do believe that they are the only ones who are gonna make it through the pearlies!

We know differently, THANK GOD!!!

My question is...are these men in REBELLION???

Rebelling against authority, their spiritual covering, the UPCI Mothership?
Contending for their differences to the disunity of the brethren?
Stirring the pot of rebellion against those who don't see things just their way?
Full of self-aggrandizement for their higher plain of holiness standards?

Could this be considered REBELLION?
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:08 AM
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They don't???

When I was little, I remember being absolutely devastated as we passed the Baptist church with its parking filled to capacity and thinking,

"Dear God, all of those poor people are going straight to HELL!"

But I think many UPCI folks really do believe that they are the only ones who are gonna make it through the pearlies!

We know differently, THANK GOD!!!

My question is...are these men in REBELLION???

Rebelling against authority, their spiritual covering, the UPCI Mothership?
Contending for their differences to the disunity of the brethren?
Stirring the pot of rebellion against those who don't see things just their way?
Full of self-aggrandizement for their higher plain of holiness standards?

Could this be considered REBELLION?
The thirteen colonies rebelled against King George but I think it has been for the best. "Give me liberty or give me death." NO organization has Divine authority thus it is NOT rebellion against Divine authority. All are manmade.
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:10 AM
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The thirteen colonies rebelled against King George but I think it has been for the best. "Give me liberty or give me death." NO organization has Divine authority thus it is NOT rebellion against Divine authority. All are manmade.
Disobedience to the manual is only rebellion if the "others guys" are doing it!
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:14 AM
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Disobedience to the manual is only rebellion if the "others guys" are doing it!
Pianoman they have chosen to leave rather than disobey the manual just like the guys in 92 so it is the same. It is rebellion when you sign to obey and then you flagrantly do the opposite.
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:22 AM
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They don't???

When I was little, I remember being absolutely devastated as we passed the Baptist church with its parking filled to capacity and thinking,

"Dear God, all of those poor people are going straight to HELL!"

But I think many UPCI folks really do believe that they are the only ones who are gonna make it through the pearlies!

We know differently, THANK GOD!!!

My question is...are these men in REBELLION???

Rebelling against authority, their spiritual covering, the UPCI Mothership?
Contending for their differences to the disunity of the brethren?
Stirring the pot of rebellion against those who don't see things just their way?
Full of self-aggrandizement for their higher plain of holiness standards?

Could this be considered REBELLION?
I don't think so. Rebellion ... No, Like elder Eply said the org doesn't have any divine authority. Bro Haney isn't Pope Kenneth I.

There is an ethincs question though.

The right way to form/be part of a new Org.
1. Resign from the UPCI, lapse on dues, however one does that. WIth a letter such as the one this thread is about.
2. Don't mass mail invitation to the membership.
3.Go to the new thing as a a free preacher, while maintaining as much ties as possible with the preachers who stay.

I just can't find fault with brethren who follow their convictions and do so with a good spirit, not hating or fighting anyone.

I am inclined to think that TV was the straw that broke the camels back, not the log, and that a lot of these fellows are leaving because of a trend.

If an org does form in Tulsa, I pray that they have good success and a great revival.

Even though I am not anti TV, I am still not convinced it was the best move for the UPCI. And, time will tell what fruit it bears.

NOW, There is an ethical responsibility on the part of the ORg, they need to NOT put these brethren on the drop list in the Forward lumped with the adulterers and drunks.

They, if listed at all should be noted that they are in good standing.
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:59 AM
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Pianoman they have chosen to leave rather than disobey the manual just like the guys in 92 so it is the same. It is rebellion when you sign to obey and then you flagrantly do the opposite.
How would they disobey the manual? Res 4 doesn't mandate that they advertise on TV.
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