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Old 09-09-2014, 06:48 PM
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As I said above....these giants were the purebred from Noah's descendants
Wouldn't everyone be purebred from Noah?
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BUT this group of people called "Sons of God"...does that just refer to Noah and his 3 sons? They were the only sons of God?

And if so why separate this group "Sons of God" from Noah's group later?





Noah and his sons were all that were left of the righteous and unbackslid "sons of God", when God chose to wipe man off the earth. Noah and his sons ONLY had 1(one) wife each...

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Wouldn't everyone be purebred from Noah?

Yes, but all of us intermarry as genetics change as the generations go by we dont remove our shorter offspring from our families. These giants had to stay "racist" to consistently breed large children.


If they ever had a shorty in their midst, Im sure shorty didnt last long with them, especially if they were trying to "preserve" their consistent size.

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It's a good thing he made room on the ark for 8 GIANTS


Like I said...Noah's cubit was a lot larger than ours....the ark could easily handle their size...they built it!
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The "sons of God" eventually backslid.....I guess you cant see that???


Only Noah and his sons survived...if ADAM was still alive, he died by the wrath of God.....Right???
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:11 PM
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Raphah is the Hebrew word for Giants. Not a nationality. Once again you are making the same mistake of looking at the Hebrew word and not the story
The Hebrew "words" for giant/giants are: Nephilim, Rephaite/Rephaim, gibber, Rapha/Raphah

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2Sa 21:18 After this there was again war with the Philistines at Gob. Then Sibbecai the Hushathite struck down Saph, who was one of the descendants of the giants.

See it says "Descendants of the giants"
It doesn't say giants. It says, "the giant" as in one.

(18) After this, there was again war with the Philistines at Gob (Gezer). Then Sibbecai the Hushathite slew Saph (Sippai), who was a descendant of the giant. (AMP)

(18) And it came to pass after this, that there was again war with the Philistines at Gob: then Sibbecai the Hushathite slew Saph, who was of the sons of the giant. (ASV)

(18) There was another battle with the Philistines at Gob, where Sibbecai from Hushah killed a descendant of the Rephaim named Saph. (CEV)

(18) And it came to pass after this, that there was again a battle with the Philistines at Gob: then Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Saph, which was of the sons of the giant. (KJV)

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What does this person mean by "the giants"? How would they know what group this refers to?
I couldn't say because it says - "the giant" and not "giants".

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10 (The Emim formerly lived there, a people great and many, and tall as the Anakim. 11 Like the Anakim they are also counted as Rephaim, but the Moabites call them Emim.

The Holy Bible: English Standard Version. 2001 (Dt 2:10–11). Wheaton: Standard Bible Society.

The Anakim were said to be of the race of Nephilim (as I showed earlier)

Here they are Giant people
11 (For only Og the king of Bashan was left of the remnant of the Rephaim. Behold, his bed was a bed of iron. Is it not in Rabbah of the Ammonites? Nine cubits was its length, and four cubits its breadth, according to the common cubit.)

The Holy Bible: English Standard Version. 2001 (Dt 3:11). Wheaton: Standard Bible Society.

This group of Giants are said to be the same Group Moses defeated
12 all the kingdom of Og in Bashan, who reigned in Ashtaroth and in Edrei (he alone was left of the remnant of the Rephaim); these Moses had struck and driven out.

The Holy Bible: English Standard Version. 2001 (Jos 13:12). Wheaton: Standard Bible Society.

Rephaim follows the flow of the Hebrew language to describe this race of large people
Here are the giants? When it says that "he alone was left of the Rephaim"?

It's almost like, us fo' and no mo'.

2 Samuel 21:22 "These four were descendants of Rapha in Gath, and they fell at the hands of David and his men." (NIV)

Is that THE Giant, The Rapha?
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I was noticing this translation that is ONLY in the NET - taking huge liberties here.

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Jude 1:7 (NET) | In Context | Whole Chapter

7 So also Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighboring towns, since they indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire in a way similar to these angels, are now displayed as an example by suffering the punishment of eternal fire.
What I've read about the NET.

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Students who are studying the notes of the NET Bible should realize that many of them barely scratch the surface of the interpretive issues, and they are no substitute for a comprehensive exegetical commentary.

It would be to their advantage if the editors were to get a clearer sense of the purpose of the version. Apparently it was originally conceived as a Bible for students who required a fairly literal translation for close study, with detailed exegetical notes; but revisions moved the text in a paraphrastic direction, as if it had to be understandable to uneducated and casual readers, to those who are offended at "sexist" language, and even to such dull readers as those who cannot understand obvious metaphors (e.g. "under his feet"). The result is, the translation itself is not very useful for close study.
http://www.bible-researcher.com/net.html
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Noah and his sons were all that were left of the righteous and unbackslid "sons of God", when God chose to wipe man off the earth. Noah and his sons ONLY had 1(one) wife each...

That's not what you said earlier. You connected "The Sons of God saw the daughters of men" to what Jesus said about the Days of Noah...you argued it was the same time.

Which also does not make sense because you argued "Marrying" was a sin and yet the Sons of God were the ones Marrying wives
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Yes, but all of us intermarry as genetics change as the generations go by we dont remove our shorter offspring from our families. These giants had to stay "racist" to consistently breed large children.


If they ever had a shorty in their midst, Im sure shorty didnt last long with them, especially if they were trying to "preserve" their consistent size.

Intermarried with WHO? Noah and his family started a new generation
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The "sons of God" eventually backslid.....I guess you cant see that???


Only Noah and his sons survived...if ADAM was still alive, he died by the wrath of God.....Right???
Really? Wow...over night too. All those Righteous "Sons of God" just stopped being sons of God..
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