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Old 04-03-2007, 01:11 AM
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About the only falso doctrine that will ........ those in the church is preaching standards, from what I have read around here.


Trinitarianism? No problem.

Baptism in the titles? Who cares?

Don't think the Holy Ghost is essential? Hey, God understands.

But God have mercy on the preacher who draws a line without specific chapter and verse.
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Old 04-03-2007, 06:24 AM
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Bro. Epley, I came out of hiding on this one. Well started and strong with truth.

I have been involved with a number of these doctrines, while searching for truth. Those I were part of were very deceptive in their spiritualization of scripture in gnostic fashion. The divine flesh, or docetic doctrine, is among one of the biggest spiritualizing doctrines out there, followed by preterism.

I do not know who in their right mind would ever believe in the Pearson doctrine of Inclusivistic Grace, or All Eventually Saved Even After Death. People who believe this mess trounce under foot the sacrifice of Calvary.

Some have used this thread to attack standards, which shows another doctrine which will send to Hell. It is the hate truth doctrine, when people, because they love the world and sin so much, that they come against standards of righteousness. Yes, those who preach and come against holiness standards had better repent themselves.
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:34 AM
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Do you believe in the same doctrine that Bishop carlton Pearson ascribes to?
I don't know Carlton Pearson, nor have I studied what he believes.
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:49 AM
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As I was told it, the ultimate reconciliation doctrine is that all will be saved. Some will go to hell for punishment, but when their "stripes" have been given they will come out and accept Jesus and be saved. So ultimately ALL will receive salvation. I don't know if you believe it Crakjak, but I know a few that believe even Satan himself will come out of the lake of fire after his "punishment", and will be reunited with God.
I do believe that God will redeem His whole creation, as far UR, I focus on man, for whom Jesus died.

I Tim. 4.10 "For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe."
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:09 AM
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Those were individuals called such for specific actions at specific times.

You are speaking damnation on thousands on a wholesale basis without even know the state of their belief.

I don't disagree with your basic tenet.

I just have problem with your constant threads & posts painted thousands (and sometimes millions) of people as lost on a wholesale basis when you have no idea as to any of their personal state of belief.

But.. it does appear to be your "ministry"... so carry on.
If you are downline, drinking from a poisoned stream... do you not also receive the poison and subsequent consequences?
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:17 AM
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:18 AM
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Some have used this thread to attack standards, which shows another doctrine which will send to Hell.

It is the hate truth doctrine, when people, because they love the world and sin so much, that they come against standards of righteousness. Yes, those who preach and come against holiness standards had better repent themselves.
I don't understand the first comment at all.

THe second statement...well...it is a serious thing to say that those who do not subscribe to cultural standards hate truth. In fact it could be quite insulting. Another falicy among you and yours is that those who do not subscribe to cultural standards hate and come against holiness. This is absolutely and emphatically wrong.

I will admit every day in every way that I need to repent to the Lord Jesus...you "had better repent" toward your brethern...using your vernacular of course.
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:44 AM
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There are people here who believe that if you pray using the name "Jesus" your prayer is ineffectual? Is that a heresy? Will that send you to hell?
Felicity,

When you say "there are people HERE that believe to use Jesus name in prayer is ineffective" do you mean on this forum? If so please name names and post where this was said. I have never seen anyone here make that statement. If what you said is true I would like to know. thanks, mike
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Speaking as a saint I would ask that you define the Apostles Doctrine.

There seems to be alot of "doctrines" (many winds) blowing around and it is the job of the 5-fold ministry to minster to perfect the saints:

And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Eph 4:14 That we [henceforth] be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, [and] cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Eph 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, [even] Christ:

There are many wolves in sheep's clothing ready to promote and teach a lie in order to get people to follow them. Tell us what this Apostle's doctrine is and how it will keep us saved.

Bump for STEVE EPLEY

If we are supposed to follow the Apostles doctrine and not teach contrary or outside of it, what is the Apostles' Doctrine?

What about those doctrines that are not part of the Apostles' Doctrine which tcut off brothers/sisters from the body ? Are they not heresies also -- not only potentially damning those that are cut-off but those that teach others to cut-off (separate themselves) from a bro/sis in the Lord?
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Old 04-03-2007, 12:30 PM
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One false doctrine that will ........ the church is that if a woman cuts her hair she is lost eternally.

It will ........ the church because there are so few women who don't (cut their hair I mean) resulting in very few women being saved.
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