Worldwide Pentecostal Fellowship - Articles of Faith - Page 17

canam · #**161** 07-23-2010, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximilian

The evening speaker tonight actually preached about facebook.

Yeah, but did he mention twittter ? Not likely,the ones that are against fb are tweeters.

Sister Alvear · #**162** 07-23-2010, 08:26 AM

for my two cents worth I would like to say when we learn to really be a christian our downfall will not be facebook or youtube...It is impossible and not biblical to control people however it is biblical to lead in love...
I personally am on facebook and it has not been a hinderence to my spiritual walk with my lovely Lord. I have been able to share with others what God is doing.

I have tried to help our people be christians...and have a real walk with God for themselves...holding to my apron strings will not save them. We must help others to be solid christians because at some point each one will be tested for themselves and many times alone...
We really are what we are when we are alone....

Sister Alvear · #**163** 07-23-2010, 08:30 AM

If we as leaders are not careful we will teach our people we have so much more than the church across town...and in time that will produce sick people....we must teach but not for our personal gain...We must point souls to Jesus. There are other oneness groups in Brazil and many of them are just as saved as I am...I refuse to tell my people a lie and talk bad against the churches across town or even up the street....

*AQuietPlace* · #**164** 07-23-2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JustSmilin

When I went to a UPC church, camcorders were never allowed. People who didn't go to our church couldn't bring their camcorders to any school functions. (I went to the school at the church.) Cell phones with camcorders weren't around then, so that never came into play.

There are a few churches like that, but most are not.

Mr. Will · #**165** 07-23-2010, 07:29 PM

Are dentures considered an attempt to "artificially induce beauty?"....Just wondering..

Sam · #**166** 07-23-2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Will

Are dentures considered an attempt to "artificially induce beauty?"....Just wondering..

some churches preach against having dental work done

JustSmilin · #**167** 07-23-2010, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

some churches preach against having dental work done

Wow. Just...wow. I think that some of the things like that are ridiculous. I mean no disrespect toward anyone, but do they really think that dental work is a sin or will lead you to hell? People need to have a freedom to be who they are and follow their own convictions. By that I mean I don't need to be told whether or not dental work, wearing a certain color, having the right stockings, being told whether or not I can watch tv or wear a wedding ring, etc... I need to ask God myself whether or not it's okay. I remember being told that our slits were to be only 2" or 3" long and having to ask permission whether or not it was okay to have a party and ask if it was okay to invite people. Am I alone in thinking that's crossing a boundary?

Sam · #**168** 07-24-2010, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JustSmilin

Wow. Just...wow. I think that some of the things like that are ridiculous. I mean no disrespect toward anyone, but do they really think that dental work is a sin or will lead you to hell? People need to have a freedom to be who they are and follow their own convictions. By that I mean I don't need to be told whether or not dental work, wearing a certain color, having the right stockings, being told whether or not I can watch tv or wear a wedding ring, etc... I need to ask God myself whether or not it's okay. I remember being told that our slits were to be only 2" or 3" long and having to ask permission whether or not it was okay to have a party and ask if it was okay to invite people. Am I alone in thinking that's crossing a boundary?

To some people you would be considered rebellious to even ask questions like that or to try to think for yourself. For centuries the "established" Church (Roman Catholic) held people in bondage through ignorance and superstition. The Church controlled their eternal destiny and was the only way for them to get to Heaven. They had to be baptized in the church to be saved, they had to be married in the church to be married in God's sight, they had to confess their sins to a representative of the church to obtain forgiveness, they had to follow the church's rules and observe the church's rituals and sacraments to "keep" their salvation, and they needed the official last rites of the church to have any hope of getting to Heaven. The Pope was considered the Vicar of Christ and any of his pronouncements from the throne were considered infallible and directly from God. To leave the church was considered leaving God. We can see this same type of bondage through ignorance and superstition in some churches today which are not Roman Catholic but may be Pentecostal or Apostolic or UPC or Holiness.

JustSmilin · #**169** 07-24-2010, 09:41 PM

I'm sure to a lot of people I'm considered rebellious for thinking or asking those questions. I'm okay with that, though. I'd rather think for myself than be told what to do and have no opinions or convictions of my own.

That's not to say I don't believe we should listen to our pastor, but I believe that some things you just don't need to be told.

Sam · #**170** 07-25-2010, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JustSmilin

I'm sure to a lot of people I'm considered rebellious for thinking or asking those questions. I'm okay with that, though. I'd rather think for myself than be told what to do and have no opinions or convictions of my own.

That's not to say I don't believe we should listen to our pastor, but I believe that some things you just don't need to be told.

I believe we should follow our pastor as he or she follows Christ. When a pastor starts preaching opinions and personal convictions or likes and dislikes as the Word we are under no obligation to listen to that stuff.