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Old 04-25-2007, 02:45 PM
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Brother, you sound like my wife. She denies this truth..........BUT........she can't say why. She has NO ground to stand on, and we know what the Lord said about that shifting foundation.

All you're doing is spouting "YOU'RE WRONG!", but you have YET to show us what's RIGHT. Until then..........blanks.

btw, my wife is as lost as a goose, and you sound a lot like her.
I am sorry to hear that your wife is going to hell. That is no good. I have answered your questions, every one. The fact is that I have stated that why was there a need to be baptized because the HG would have taken the sins away. Because as we know God's spirit is sooo Holy that it could exist in an unclean vessel. True or not?

You say truth like it is relative only the way you see it through your glasses. Truth is Jesus. Not anything else but what Acts 2:32-36 says. PERIOD
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Brother, you sound like my wife. She denies this truth..........BUT........she can't say why. She has NO ground to stand on, and we know what the Lord said about that shifting foundation.
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I am sorry to hear that your wife is going to hell. That is no good. I have answered your questions, every one. The fact is that I have stated that why was there a need to be baptized because the HG would have taken the sins away. Because as we know God's spirit is sooo Holy that it could exist in an unclean vessel. True or not?

You say truth like it is relative only the way you see it through your glasses. Truth is Jesus. Not anything else but what Acts 2:32-36 says. PERIOD
By our own words OGIA ... we shall be measured.
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Old 04-25-2007, 02:55 PM
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By our own words OGIA ... we shall be measured.
Yeah good thing that He is not our judge although he is acting that way.
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Old 04-25-2007, 02:57 PM
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I am sorry to hear that your wife is going to hell. That is no good.
Don't worry. Real saints are praying for her.


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I have answered your questions, every one.
No you haven't.

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Again, I ask you to supply one verse that defines when and where remission of sins occurs other than Acts 2:38.
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I will research it, but I ask you this can you give me a verse other than Acts 2:38 that tells you that baptism remits sins?
btw, I then answered yet another question you had.

I'll await your scriptural support. Until then, remission of sins is effected after repentance and water baptism by immersion in the name of Jesus Christ.
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Old 04-25-2007, 03:00 PM
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IYO. And your opinion is wrong, brother. We can not and will not explain away any verse. Any of you have yet to give a valid reason on why sins would not be forgiven when someone receives the HG before baptism. Not even a fair answer has been given. Now lets see who explains away scripture
Thank you for your response, but my post was really addressed to Dan, he is a big boy, I know he can address questions to him.
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Old 04-25-2007, 03:02 PM
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So there you have it folks, these magpies are actually trying to erase "remission" from Acts 2:38.

I think their argument is with God. So I will let them go at it.
Exactly!
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Old 04-25-2007, 03:03 PM
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I am asking you a question here...when the people in the upper room received th HG were they still sinners? IYO
If you repent of your sins, you are no longer a sinner.
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Old 04-25-2007, 03:03 PM
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The onus is you to prove that the "for" is a causal, or in order to attain. "for" ... and not a because 'for ........ that's where our debate hangs on ... doesn't it ... the meaning of 'eis'
See, this is exactly what I meant by you tring to erase or explain it away.
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Old 04-25-2007, 03:05 PM
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See, this is exactly what I meant by you tring to erase or explain it away.
Easty most of the Protestant world sees it the way I do ... so who is doing the explaining????
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Old 04-25-2007, 03:05 PM
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Don't worry. Real saints are praying for her.
I am not worrying. All kidding and arguing aside you are the leader of the home and you will find a way to lead her there. It is not the will of God for her to hell. So God will give you the right words to say and put the timing right for you. One day she will come to you and say, I see it now. Like a slap in the back of the head it will hit her and she will not be able to deny it. Just remember this it is a growth process. No one gets a full revelation of everything over night. She might not change alot of things she is doing now. But your job is to help her grow. Being judgmental is not good leadership. Always remember to get mercy you must show mercy.
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