WHEW!!Most SCATHING Article On TD Jakes Ever!

[LaGirl]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Let's do it.

I could go to Schenectady w/ my buddy Trav ... who knows him very well.

he doesnt live there. you could come closer...like to La in sept. he will be at my house.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by live4him

you tell me how men in the church today travail like woman, not to many, God has made a woman strong to help carry the family and if it is in her hair - so be it, the hair is a covering, it is a obedience to God, God is over man-- man is over woman, it is a spiritual thing for a man to be the spiritual leader, but let me tell you something woman are the ones carrying the family most of the time, the men need to step up to the plate and take on convictions, and quit putting it in the ladies lap all the time,

First of all it's NOT in her hair. Second of all IF and I say IF men can't travail like women then maybe that is our problem. We think men have to be like women when they pray. This is what this is all leading to, the feminizing of the church. Men can pray just as "good" as women. We don't have to be emotional in order for God to hear us. We just need FAITH!

It's such a huge myth that women can pray and men can't. This is worse than Married With Children episode that depicts the man as a loser all the time. It's no wonder we have more women than men in the church!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by LaGirl

he doesnt live there. you could come closer...like to La in sept. he will be at my house.

Sounds like a date.

Do you think he'd let me record the conversation?

[LaGirl]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

We're just referring to his preaching at Black's in which he did curse those who did not have the "glorious" revelation.

oh...i thougt you meant he cursed those that didnt agree with him.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by LaGirl

he isnt like that. i am sure he would be glad to talk with you. he loves to help young ministers.

he's talking about the message were LS publicly cursed anyone that disagreed.

Dan you need to transcribe that message

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

First of all it's NOT in her hair. Second of all IF and I say IF men can't travail like women then maybe that is our problem. We think men have to be like women when they pray. This is what this is all leading to, the feminizing of the church. Men can pray just as "good" as women. We don't have to be emotional in order for God to hear us. We just need FAITH!

It's such a huge myth that women can pray and men can't. This is worse than Married With Children episode that depicts the man as a loser all the time. It's no wonder we have more women than men in the church!

Her remarks show what we've done to the minds of women in Pentecost.

[LaGirl]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Sounds like a date.

Do you think he'd let me record the conversation?

i doubt he would care if you recorded it.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Her remarks show what we've done to the minds of women in Pentecost.

True.

[LaGirl]

he is out of the country until the end of the month. when he gets back i will tell him of your concerns and ask if he would talk to you.

[live4him]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

First of all it's NOT in her hair. Second of all IF and I say IF men can't travail like women then maybe that is our problem. We think men have to be like women when they pray. This is what this is all leading to, the feminizing of the church. Men can pray just as "good" as women. We don't have to be emotional in order for God to hear us. We just need FAITH!

It's such a huge myth that women can pray and men can't. This is worse than Married With Children episode that depicts the man as a loser all the time. It's no wonder we have more women than men in the church!

let me clarify what i was saying, is that i see woman praying more than men. why? men dont have to really weep, but they should pray more, men can have power if they would just pray and seek Gods face- and that is right, all they need is Faith- i do agree