A Handmaids Tale

[Amanah]

Brother Esaias, don't Christian reconstructionist believe that eventually society will be reformed to include every aspect of society including government, which will usher in a golden age and then a visible return of Christ?

In Christian end-times theology (eschatology), postmillennialism is an interpretation of chapter 20 of the Book of Revelation which sees Christ's second coming as occurring after (Latin post-) the "Millennium", a Golden Age in which Christian ethics prosper.[1] The term subsumes several similar views of the end times, and it stands in contrast to premillennialism and, to a lesser extent, amillennialism (see Summary of Christian eschatological differences).

Postmillennialism holds that Jesus Christ establishes his kingdom on earth through his preaching and redemptive work in the first century and that he equips his church with the gospel, empowers her by the Spirit, and charges her with the Great Commission (Matt 28:19) to disciple all nations. Postmillennialism expects that eventually the vast majority of people living will be saved. Increasing gospel success will gradually produce a time in history prior to Christ's return in which faith, righteousness, peace, and prosperity will prevail in the affairs of men and of nations. After an extensive era of such conditions Jesus Christ will return visibly, bodily, and gloriously, to end history with the general resurrection and the final judgment after which the eternal order follows.

Postmillenialism was a dominant theological belief among American Protestants who promoted reform movements in the 19th and 20th century such as abolitionism[2] and the Social Gospel.[3] Postmillennialism has become one of the key tenets of a movement known as Christian Reconstructionism. It has been criticized by 20th century religious conservatives as an attempt to immanentize the eschaton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmillennialism

[Amanah]

Mike Pence a reconstructionist?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Brother Esaias, don't Christian reconstructionist believe that eventually society will be reformed to include every aspect of society including government, which will usher in a golden age and then a visible return of Christ?

Most reconstructionists are postmillennialists who believe that the millennium refers to a long period in world history during which most if not all nations will acknowledge Christ as King and during which most people will be at least nominal Christians following the Bible. The millennium will end with a final global rebellion against Christ and His church, but will be interrupted by the Second Advent and the Final Judgment.

I, however, am not convinced of postmillennialism. At least not from any of the arguments I have seen in favor of it. I also do not see that theonomy presupposes or necessitates postmillennialism, contrary to the claims of many postmil reconstructionists.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Mike Pence a reconstructionist?

I haven't seen any evidence Pence is anything but a typical neoconservative (aka "Trotskyite Fabian Socialist" aka Republican aka "Conservative"™).

If there are any theonomists in politics, they're probably either in the Constitution Party or maybe one of the numerous secession movements springing up across the country.

[Amanah]

Esaias, are the accusations leveled against Rushdoony correct as stated below:

Rushdoony was, and remains, a controversial figure, as is the Christian Reconstructionist movement in which he was involved. Pointing to Rushdoony's support for the death penalty, the British Centre for Science Education decried his perceived dislike of democracy and tolerance.[8] Furthermore, Rushdoony has been accused of Holocaust denial and racism.[34] According to Frank Schaeffer, Rushdoony believed that interracial marriage, which he referred to as "unequal yoking", should be made illegal.[35] He also opposed "enforced integration", referred to Southern slavery as "benevolent", and said that "some people are by nature slaves".[36] Kerwin Lee Klein, however, argues that Rushdoony was not a "biological racialist" and that for him "racism founded on modern biology simply represented another pagan revival."[37]
In The Institutes of Biblical Law he uses the 1967 work Judaism and the Vatican by Léon de Poncins as a source for Paul Rassinier's figure of 1.2 million Jewish deaths during the Holocaust, and the claim that Raul Hilberg calculated the number at 896,292, and further asserts that very many of these died of epidemics. He calls the charge of 6 million Jewish deaths "false witness" against Germany.[38][39] In 2000, Rushdoony stated concerning this passage in his Institutes "It was not my purpose to enter a debate over numbers, whether millions were killed, or tens of millions, an area which must be left to others with expertise in such matters. My point then and now is that in all such matters what the Ninth Commandment requires is the truth, not exaggeration, irrespective of the cause one seeks to serve."[40] Carl R. Trueman, Professor of Historical Theology and Church History at Westminster Theological Seminary wrote in 2009 regarding the passage and Rushdoony's Holocaust denial:
His sources are atrocious, secondhand, and unverified; that he held this position speaks volumes about his appalling incompetence as a historian, and one can only speculate as to why he held the position from a moral perspective.... He deals with the matter under the issue of the ninth commandment and, ironically breaches it himself in his presentation of the matter.[41]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rousas...oony#Criticism

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Mike Pence a reconstructionist?

He is a talking head, as phony as a rubber chicken. Not saying that he doesn't believe what he is saying. But, how do you know when a politician is lying? When his mouth is moving.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Esaias, are the accusations leveled against Rushdoony correct as stated below:

https://books.google.com/books?id=5f...ianity&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=_r...ianity&f=false

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[houston]

Yes. Amanah. They are true.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

https://books.google.com/books?id=5f...ianity&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=_r...ianity&f=false

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two answers to to Nazism:

* the Confessing Church chose ecumenicalism as a way to identify as a community of believers/church rather than with the state, the precursor to the world council of churches. They believed the church could affect the world.

* the German Church chose nationalism, subjection to the state, and racism along with a hatred for Judaism, even the exclusion of OT scriptures, they for the most part collaborated with the NAZIs. They thought that the Kingdom of God was not for this world but for the next.

* neither option is good.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Esaias, are the accusations leveled against Rushdoony correct as stated below:

1. Rushdoony was hated by almost everyone. Even Gary North (his own son-in-law, I believe) opposed him in numerous grounds.

2. His reasons for questioning the official Holocaust story stem from the testimony of Paul Rassinier, mentioned in your quote, who is called "The Father of Holocaust Denial". Rassinier was a prisoner in Dachau, by the way. Before and after the War, he was an accomplished historian, a pacifist (a real one), an antifascist, and also opposed Soviet style communism. He wrote extensively on his experiences in Dachau, and concluded that an industry of Holocaust propaganda was being developed for various political purposes by both Zionists, the Soviets, and the West. As a result, he has been castigated. The holocaust doctrine is not to be questioned whatsoever, even by people who suffered in Nazi concentration camps, apparently.

3. Concerning interracial marriage, here is something his son said:

" He performed many weddings, but I was at very few of them. One, however, I am very familiar with. When asked to perform an inter-racial (white groom and black bride) marriage between two professing believers, he met with them, was satisfied that they were both Christians, and told my mother that the bride was a "superior girl." I was present when he admitted that he personally was not sure he liked the idea but he made a point to say his feelings were irrelevant, and added, emphatically, "I cannot forbid what God has not!" He performed the ceremony."

That is found on the Chalcedon website, which goes into greater detail concerning Rushdoony's views on marriage: https://chalcedon.edu/blog/ask-chalcedon-racism