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Old 07-07-2009, 11:51 PM
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tstew- Let's consider this logically.

Who has greater control over the destiny of Alaska? The governor or Washington?

1. Who determines foreign policy regarding nukes and missle defense? (Especially important when the President thinks its time to cut back on missle defense systerms even as N Korea's capability of targeting Alaska grows).

2. Who has the most impact on environmental decisions (such as the right to drill for oil) that affects the livelihood of the United States in general and Alaska in particular?

3. Who has the ability to vote in the CAP and TRADE TAX that will destroy the American economy by killing jobs and the middle class, creating more government intrusion with more room for political corruption in the name of an unproven global warming theory that more and more scientists consider unproven and unlikely?

Given the fact that Sarah Palin is a voice that much of America responds to; is it really so hard to fathom that she could do more good for Alaska if she wasn't governor at this critical point in our history?
Who has greater control over the destiny of Alaska?
Newman, what is incredible to me is that you and others who I know to be very intelligent people are so drawn to defend this that you all may be bordering on the illogical.
Who has greater control over Alaska? Perhaps the governor that they elected to govern them has greater control than someone who is a private citizen with absolutely no real power after July 26 or whatever date she quits. Perhaps the person who swore an oath to represent and govern that state has a pretty significant voice and a bit of control over the destiny of Alaska. Is the much vaunted executive experience we heard so much about here during the general election that irrelevant?

Do you question the role and importance that Governor Arnold has in California? Is he irrelevant and powerless in this critical time in his state's history. Should he and all the other governors quit and become private citizens to that they can fight Washington?

If I had the time or thought it would do any good, I would go find the specific oath of office she took but.....
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Old 07-08-2009, 12:16 AM
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Who has greater control over the destiny of Alaska?
Newman, what is incredible to me is that you and others who I know to be very intelligent people are so drawn to defend this that you all may be bordering on the illogical.
Who has greater control over Alaska? Perhaps the governor that they elected to govern them has greater control than someone who is a private citizen with absolutely no real power after July 26 or whatever date she quits. Perhaps the person who swore an oath to represent and govern that state has a pretty significant voice and a bit of control over the destiny of Alaska. Is the much vaunted executive experience we heard so much about here during the general election that irrelevant?

Do you question the role and importance that Governor Arnold has in California? Is he irrelevant and powerless in this critical time in his state's history. Should he and all the other governors quit and become private citizens to that they can fight Washington?

If I had the time or thought it would do any good, I would go find the specific oath of office she took but.....


Given the power play in Washington which includes:

1. Stimulous spending with strings attached for the states;

2. Pending cap and trade legislation that will gut the middle class;

3. The tightening environmental laws that sends business out of the country; and

4. The president's direction concerning foreign policy which puts our nation at risk;

I fail to see how one could think a govenor of one state is more powerful than a national voice that can generate publicity and attention speaking out against Obama's crusade to change America into a third rate country in addition to raising funds so that Conservative voices can get voted into Congress to stop him.

Btw- Governor Arnold doesn't have to worry about being nuked yet (unlike Alaska and Hawaii) and he doesn't have the ability to get the same kind of attention Sarah Palin does. Therefore, he might as well remain governor unless of course he realizes that someone else could get things fixed much faster than he can.
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Old 07-08-2009, 01:01 AM
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Given the power play in Washington which includes:

1. Stimulous spending with strings attached for the states;

2. Pending cap and trade legislation that will gut the middle class;

3. The tightening environmental laws that sends business out of the country; and

4. The president's direction concerning foreign policy which puts our nation at risk;

I fail to see how one could think a govenor of one state is more powerful than a national voice that can generate publicity and attention speaking out against Obama's crusade to change America into a third rate country in addition to raising funds so that Conservative voices can get voted into Congress to stop him.

Btw- Governor Arnold doesn't have to worry about being nuked yet (unlike Alaska and Hawaii) and he doesn't have the ability to get the same kind of attention Sarah Palin does. Therefore, he might as well remain governor unless of course he realizes that someone else could get things fixed much faster than he can.
...okay so now the official explanation is that she abandoned her post because of Obama?
...and to prevent Alaska from being nuked?
...so it is not simply to save Alaska from the suits?
...and you think that somehow by quitting, she has increased her ability to be a national voice. My gut tells me that by quitting, she has effectively insured that her sphere of influence will never increase beyond those who already feel constrained to support and defend her. I don't see any way this will increase her circle of influence, respect, and trust on the national stage.

Where do these explanations and grand schemes come from? From her, or her apologists, or from those who look to make sense of this?
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:39 AM
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...okay so now the official explanation is that she abandoned her post because of Obama?
...and to prevent Alaska from being nuked?
...so it is not simply to save Alaska from the suits?
...and you think that somehow by quitting, she has increased her ability to be a national voice. My gut tells me that by quitting, she has effectively insured that her sphere of influence will never increase beyond those who already feel constrained to support and defend her. I don't see any way this will increase her circle of influence, respect, and trust on the national stage.

Where do these explanations and grand schemes come from? From her, or her apologists, or from those who look to make sense of this?

From her resignation speech given shortly after her trip to see the troops stationed in Iraq; but just before the N Korea began the fireworks show they promised. Note that Obama has continued to say that we need to reduce our missle defense programs.

Sarah Palin said, "But I have given my reasons... no more "politics as usual" and I am taking my fight for what's right - for Alaska - in a new direction.

Now, despite this, I don't want any Alaskan dissuaded from entering politics after seeing this REAL "climate change" that began in August... no, we NEED hardworking, average Americans fighting for what's right! And I will support you because we need YOU and YOU can effect change, and I can too on the outside.

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Old 07-08-2009, 03:16 PM
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Reading Between the Lines of Palin's Book

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's memoir is due out in early 2010 and a former editor at Penguin Books tells Politico it will almost certainly give hints as to whether she'll make a run for the White House.

Andrew Sullivan: "The real sell of the book will be the truth about the resignation, if she can keep it hushed up that long."
http://politicalwire.com/archives/20...lins_book.html
I pre-ordered two copies of this book. One for me and ONE FOR STEW!!! He has to know!!!!
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I pre-ordered two copies of this book. One for me and ONE FOR STEW!!! He has to know!!!!
LOL. I'm sure she has already figured on the PO's of the world buying multiple copies of whatever book she writes about this.
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LOL. I'm sure she has already figured on the PO's of the world buying multiple copies of whatever book she writes about this.
LOL! I probably will never read her book, unless, I pick it up at the library. I don't spend money on political books - they never seem to change anything. I did buy one that Ann Coulter wrote - pretty much enjoyed it. She can be very cleverly hilarious - I have to respect that. Her digs at Ted Kennedy are always a riot - something about a bridge and a car - I think.

I'd like to see Palin make some money to get out from under the legal expenses that were dumped on her - for no good reason! So, on second thought, I might help her out and purchase the book. If you want one, let me know! Cause I just want to be a blessing, Stew - just like Ferd!
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Old 07-10-2009, 01:23 PM
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I'm not buying what you're peddling there.

Jimmy Carter and GWB are two prime examples of good Christian moral men who had a desire to do right and ended up being two of the worst, most inept, Presidents of the last 40 years.

I disagree with you here in regards to GWB. I voted for both men. I think JC was the worst of all our presidents. I think GWB will show to have been one of our best. I still like Reagan the best of all.

A desire to do right does not a President make. If Sarah Palin can't effectively handle one term as the Gov. of Alaska she doesn't have the capability of serving in high office, IMO. It looks like the majority of Republican strategists and RNC members are calling her toast as well.

If we're deciding qualifications for President on the basis of wanting do do what's right and being a good moral person, then the pool of qualified people becomes astrononmical.
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Thank God McCain didn't win and she was VP ... if she can't handle the heat as Gov, she sure isn't ready for the WH.
You are saying you are glad that Obama won? You like his policies?

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Here's some of the lastest reports:

Andrea Mitchell reported that, according to "people very close to Sarah Palin," she has "told her supporters that she is out of politics, period. She is fed up with politics. She doesn't like her life. She feels that she needs to raise her family. She's sick of the commute from Wasilla to the capital. And she really does not want to run for higher office, that this is not a case where she is stepping down in order to clear the way for a presidential run. In fact, she has told some of her biggest backers in the national Republican Party that they are free to choose other candidates for 2012, which of course opens new avenues for Mitt Romney, for Tim Pawlenty, for other potential candidates who are definitely in the running."

Alaska-based reporter-blogger Shannyn Moore is hearing potentially more damaging revelations are to come. "For weeks the rumors of a criminal investigation against the governor have been brewing," she writes. She spoke of the rumors with MSNBC's David Shuster, saying the talk of a criminal probe into Palin has been circulating for six to eight weeks, and that today's press conference seemed to be Palin's effort at "damage control for news to come out later."
Moore also noted that it made little sense for Palin to resign now to prepare for a presidential run, especially considering she continued on as governor during the 2008 presidential campaign unlike Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, who both turned over power to their Lieutenant Governors when they were running for national office.


The Daily Beast, Max Blumenthal pinpointed a burgeoning story that may be the source of the rumblings in Alaska:

Many political observers in Alaska are fixated on rumors that federal investigators have been seizing paperwork from SBS in recent months, searching for evidence that Palin and her husband Todd steered lucrative contracts to the well-connected company in exchange for gifts like the construction of their home on pristine Lake Lucille in 2002. The home was built just two months before Palin began campaigning for governor, a job which would have provided her enhanced power to grant building contracts in the wide open state.
This is just the type of hype that the media loves to throw out without any truth to the rumor.

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The left never see a decent person leave office for perfectly wise decisions, so they create scandal to excuse it. The Demos cry and moan if the Republicans don't co-operate with them in their socialists purposes, then they use ever quarter given as the platform for screaming for more. Reminds me of the terrorists in Gaza and the West Bank. Same source of unrighteousness, same tactics.

They are trying to cut Sarah Palin legs out from under her because they are scared to death that she might be some part of a conservative comeback. Always screaming "fowl" no matter what.
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Crakjak,

I agree with you.

What about other conservatives that find her appalling and being the blame for not winning this election?

Dont you think that if McCain had picked someone else, ANYONE else - a Republican would be sitting in the White House at this very moment?


NO! I said before he even chose a running mate he didn't have a chance to win and he didn't!

I dont have a problem with her getting out of the Governor's Mansion. Now maybe she can go home and keep a better eye on her daughters so they wont make the same mistake the oldest one made.

Sarah go home or drop down to the lower 48 and make quarter of a million dollars for one speech; hibernate for a few months and live off of the proceeds; then give another speech. This way you'll have more time to pay quality attention to your kids.

This COULD free her up to say more of the things she really feels and the base feels and connects even more with the conservatives (which may not be politically correct and the viable candidates wont be able to say to win over moderate republicans) but it will help rally the base against the liberal machine. And this will help in 2012.

Yes Sarah go home, look over your daughters and make some real money giving one hour speeches.
I hope she does run. So far I haven't heard another politican that comes close to what I agree with.
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You are saying you are glad that Obama won? You like his policies?



This is just the type of hype that the media loves to throw out without any truth to the rumor.





I hope she does run. So far I haven't heard another politican that comes close to what I agree with.
IF she runs, and IF somehow, the GOP drink the Palin Koolaid that she has it... get ready for ANOTHER 4 years of Dems. The woman has no chance. None. Zilch. Nada.
She can pick up some traditional red states, but even then she'll be hard-pressed. Thinking conservatives see her as a symbol, not as someone with substance.
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IF she runs, and IF somehow, the GOP drink the Palin Koolaid that she has it... get ready for ANOTHER 4 years of Dems. The woman has no chance. None. Zilch. Nada.
She can pick up some traditional red states, but even then she'll be hard-pressed. Thinking conservatives see her as a symbol, not as someone with substance.
I guess time will tell. As I remember no one thought GWB had a chance either.

I wonder if perhaps she may even change party lines?

I am about fed up with the Dems and the Reps.
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