VAUGHN MORTON'S FAREWELL Letter !!!

[josh]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

I have absolutely no idea what this means.

I guess I am really asking, are TJ/you/the church there leaving the UPC?

I know it may seem redundant and even rhetorical, but I haven't read anything on here or heard outside what you folks have decided...

I thought the question was, "What was the content?"

I meant that we discussed Tampa and Tulsa...

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by rkentsmith

Exiting for non payment is the only way to leave the UPCI....

You my friend ought ought to educate yourself if you are gonna offer opinions....

Non payment allows a man to go with no district board action and he leaves with no questions upon him....

Let's see how you spin that.....

His leaving an writing ony shows he is a man of conviction and lives by them even if he leaves 45 years of membership.....

No matter how he left....

This bunch will find a way to ridicule....

The same bunch that rejoices when liberals leave for their reasons....

True so true

[rgcraig]

I guess I'm missing something - I haven't really seen any rejoicing over anyone leaving.

Curious who is leaving and who is staying perhaps, but rejoicing? I don't think so.

[chaotic_resolve]

Originally Posted by bishoph

Hopefully lessons were learned from the AMF situation of many years ago.........In other words they have been known to do it in the past, and I have heard some things that are supposedly happening now with missionaries (I do not have verification so I can only say supposedly) that would lead me to believe it is possible again.

I sincerely hope they would not attempt it with men of integrity like VM, but part of me would not be surprised.

I don't know what happened with the situation you speak of, however, I have heard of some pretty wild things done at AMF services - including UPC Ministerial licenses ripped up and stomped on, etc.

If that's the case, and people are trashing the UPC - by all means put them under question and prevent them from "ministering" at UPC-affiliated churches and events.

I don't believe VM or KP, nor others I've heard of leaving, would stoop to that level. I mean, KP's written some satire's about the UPC, but nothing nasty or mean-spirited against the organization.

[chaotic_resolve]

Originally Posted by pelathais

You know, watching the back and forth here is kind of puzzling I haven't seen anyone "rejoicing" over VM leaving the UPC fellowship. I haven't seen any "cheap shots" at the man either.

rks is the only one "rejoicing" as his dancing smilie seems to indicate. But what does he rejoice over? A discussion of VM's letter?

All due respect rks, it seems that you've jumped on this issue simply to say negative things about "here." I don't know you personally (obviously) so all I can really address is what you post. But "here" on an Internet discussion board is such a fluid landscape that your complaints appear to exist without a context.

A letter was posted, and people looked at it and commented. If a watermark on the paper itself had come through on the scanned image, no doubt someone would have an opinion about the watermark. Wondering about how big of a deal this was, I asked about the letter's distribution- but no answer has yet been offered.

The fact that only "nits" could apparently be "picked" from the letter itself tells me that none of the posters had anything negative to say about the writer himself. Perhaps I missed something, but I read thread.

I'm left to conclude that you have some very negative feelings about "here." If that's the case, give it a moment and "here" will soon be over "there" as the wheels of time and of the Internet inexorably grind all of our collective discontent into dust. There's probably a thread already set up to discuss that thought as well.

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I guess I'm missing something - I haven't really seen any rejoicing over anyone leaving.

Curious who is leaving and who is staying perhaps, but rejoicing? I don't think so.

I said before, I think someone was bored and just wanted some "BOSM" to write about on another forum.

[AmazingGrace]

Ok just out of curiosity I am reading this whole thread again to see just what I missed and so far I am on page 6 and the only negative comments so far was that the header sounded corny (hmmm thats real bashing now isnt it? ) and other than that one person asked why let the dues run out????

Let me see its gotta be here somewhere! I know I am missing something!

[AmazingGrace]

Originally Posted by rkentsmith

VM makes his exit in a classy way....

Had he not written....

The rumor mill would have gone wild....

So he quietly walks with an explanation that does not bash etc....

I would think many here would celebrate this letter....

His exit adds to the division within and round the UPCI....

Brothers and sisters ....

Rejoice...

Another ultra con bit the dust!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the first post on the entire thread I have found about anyone rejoicing over anything?????????????? HMMMMMM and this sits on page 12???

[AmazingGrace]

Ok may I kindly ask a question to RKS and Coonskinner? I am not meaning this with any disrespect but can you please show us where anyone is rejoicing over him leaving on this thread? Can you please show us where we are bashing or tearing down a brother? I have searched every page and I dont see anything except by RKS?

With all due respect,
AG

[Neck]

UUC.... Get real. People still right letters today. Because they want it read by the masses.

Otherwise how did it get out in the first place.

[dizzyde]

Trust me, most people who are referred to on this forum know very quickly about it. And I would be willing to bet most of them could care less.

If they spent all their time chasing down every word that was spoken about them, well, let's just say, they generally have more important matters to deal with.

Someone very close to me has been spoken about on this forum in positive and negative ways. He knows. He could care less.

There are always going to be people around with opinions, and unless there is all-out slander taking place, most preachers have better things to do than worry about people who have no real connection to them, having opinions of them.