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Old 03-06-2020, 03:10 PM
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Why the run on TP? My supervisor told me two different Costco stores were sold out of TP because people were filling up flat carts with it and water.

Is there an outbreak of dysentery that I didn't know about?

I read a couple weeks ago that a gang in South Korea stole pallets of TP.

I read a news article from Australia that stores are beginning to limit sales of TP because people are stockpiling it.

Craziness!

I blame the media. I was on lunch break and watched a clip from the Today Show. They had Dr. Oz teaching how to properly wash your hands, some other Dr on how to properly use hand sanitizer; they had a Today Show host showing what disinfectants and cleaning supplies to purchase and another host showing what foods to stock for at least a 2-week supply.

Craziness!
Two things at work here simultaneously:

1. If there is a mandatory quarantine in your area you may be stuck at home for up to a month or two or longer with no resupply, so stock up in case.

2. Others are stocking up so the shelves are emptying, so get it while you can because in a week or two it may be all gone.

A closed feedback loop.
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Old 03-06-2020, 03:15 PM
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S Korea reporting actual mortality rate less than 1%. They have the highest test rate so their numbers make more sense to me.

Reporting in the US is a total joke and might as well be nonexistent.

There is a 5G component to all this as well, and the push for vaccines. Not to mention the outliers of China, Iran, and Italy.

China is the #1 place to die from TB. Iran is a target and they have a disproportionate number of government leaders infected. Italy? Remember last year I reported how they discovered the MMR vaccine had no actual vaccine but did have a complete human genome in it? So Italy was about to say no to vaccines and well that's been taken care of now....
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I remember a layover in LAX back in 2003. I used a bathroom that didn’t have running water. No out of order sign. So, I didn’t wash my hands. The next morning I woke covered in red bumps. All over my legs and torso.
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Yes, I know have to wash that picture out of my brain with gasoline and a blow torch.
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S Korea reporting actual mortality rate less than 1%. They have the highest test rate so their numbers make more sense to me.

Reporting in the US is a total joke and might as well be nonexistent.

There is a 5G component to all this as well, and the push for vaccines. Not to mention the outliers of China, Iran, and Italy.

China is the #1 place to die from TB. Iran is a target and they have a disproportionate number of government leaders infected. Italy? Remember last year I reported how they discovered the MMR vaccine had no actual vaccine but did have a complete human genome in it? So Italy was about to say no to vaccines and well that's been taken care of now....
Those mortality rate numbers are meant to keep people calm.

These are the hard numbers: 16% of people that get the virus with symptoms do have at least serious illness. 95% of the people with the serious illness die, and 99% of people with the critical illness die.
The death rate is around 15%.

A more accurate rate is the outcome:

died / (recovered + died)

The pending cases are not relevant to the death rate, but somehow, the media and govt includes them to water down the actual rate.

Now, I know that outcome rate is not perfect because of the timing of infection but it is more accurate than died / total sick.

S Korea:

Cases=6,593; Recovered=135; Died=42.
Rate looking only to the outcome: 42/(135+42) = 23%.

The weakness in this method is that the numbers are not large enough to be significant. The global rate, which has larger numbers is ~5%

I would say the best rate so far is 15%, based on probability of making it after getting into a serious condition.

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Ok, so I realized that I didn’t catch a case at LAX. When I walked through the carpet and looked down at my white socks they were covered in black dots. Turns out my friend’s home was infested with FLEAS.
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Those mortality rate numbers are meant to keep people calm.

These are the hard numbers: 16% of people that get the virus with symptoms do have at least serious illness. 95% of the people with the serious illness die, and 99% of people with the critical illness die.
The death rate is around 15%.

A more accurate rate is the outcome:

died / (recovered + died)

The pending cases are not relevant to the death rate, but somehow, the media and govt includes them to water down the actual rate.

Now, I know that outcome rate is not perfect because of the timing of infection but it is more accurate than died / total sick.

S Korea:

Cases=6,593; Recovered=135; Died=42.
Rate looking only to the outcome: 42/(135+42) = 23%.

The weakness in this method is that the numbers are not large enough to be significant. The global rate, which has larger numbers is ~5%

I would say the best rate so far is 15%, based on probability of making it after getting into a serious condition.
Those types of numbers are based on incomplete and manipulated datasets. As I said, S Korea has tested more people, and therefore they have a higher number of "confirmed infections". When that is taken into account, the fatality rate is less than 1%, on par with a severe influenza epidemic.

The high double-digit fatality rate numbers are based on small sample size: the only people tested outside of S Korea are those presenting to hospital with serious symptoms plus a few "contacts" thrown in. Plus people are comparing recovered to fatal cases while wholly ignoring TOTAL cases (the 99% who get it and never even notice it or who self-treat and get better, never presenting to hospital). The sample size is therefore naturally biased to high mortality. If for example we only counted flu patients who go to hospital, the death rate from flu would scare the bandwidth out of your ISP. But if you add in all the people who get flu and have mild or even no symptoms at all, the death rate drops below 1%. This is also true of Covid19, and is seen from the data in S Korea.

The cruise ships are another indicator. Several passengers test positive, the whole ship is on quarantine, and at the end less than 50% of passemgers are positive (indicating the infection rate is actually lower than was originally thought as a quarantined ship is like a prison where illness spreads like wildfire). Then, how many of the cruise ship passengers have died? If 16% of the cruise ship passengers were dead or dying I think it would be all over the internet.

An infectious disease with a literal 16% mortality demands immediate martial law lockdown that would make even China blush. So either all western governments are intentionally genociding their own populations and wiping themselves out, OR they realise this outbreak is not what the internet and media fear mongers are saying it is. Either that or the governments, CDC, and Pentagon are dumb as rocks and internet "experts" and tv newscasters know more than they do. Options 1 and 2 are far more plausible than option 3. Option 1 if true means each of us must self quarantine immediately for 2-6 months minimum in order to survive, and then it's Mad Max survival of the fittest. Option 2 is the only one of those 3 that makes sense of all real data that is available.

And all that assumes this is even a thing. The test used is the one developed for HIV, and the Nobel prize winning developer of that test said it is useless for determing infections. The CDC and others are supposedly testing using the internet-published coronavirus gene sequence, provided by the Communist Party of China. Instead of having actual samples of the virus on hand to test against.

Whatever and however things turn out, don't get on the CDC-FEMA bus and don't take the "cure-shot" that Bill Gates is going to be offering shortly.
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In January 2010, Project Camelot received 11 pages of information from an insider who was physically present at a meeting of Senior Masons in the City of London in 2005. What was discussed is chilling to the bone.



What our source reports is this:



* There is a planned Third World War, which will be nuclear and biological. Our source believes that this is on track to be initiated within the next 18-24 months.



* It is planned to begin with a strike by Israel on Iran. Either Iran or China will be provoked into a nuclear response. After a brief nuclear exchange, there will be a ceasefire. The world will be thrown into fear and chaos - all carefully engineered.



* The extreme state of tension will be used to justify heavy social and military controls in all western first world nations. Plans are already in place for that.



* During the nuclear ceasefire, there is planned to be a covert release of biological weapons. These will initially be targeted against the Chinese. As our source chillingly told us, "China will catch a cold". Biological warfare will spread further, to the west. Infrastructure will be critically weakened.



* This is intended to be just the beginning. After this, a full nuclear exchange would be triggered: the "real" war, with widespread destruction and loss of life. Our source tells us that the planned population reduction through these combined means is 50%. He heard this figure stated in the meeting.



This horrific scenario has been planned for generations. The first two world wars were part of the set-up for this final apocalypse - as is the centralization of financial resources that was precipitated with the equally well-planned financial collapse of October 2008.



As if all this were not enough, our source speculates this is all set against the backdrop of a coming "geophysical event" - the same kind of event as was experienced by our ancestors approximately 11,500 years ago. If this event occurs - not necessarily expected in 2012, but sometime in the next decade - it would destroy civilization as we know it, dwarfing even the effects of a nuclear war.



I asked the question to our source: If there's an expected catastrophe, then why initiate a Third World War? His answer, for the first time to me, made terrible sense.



The real goal, he explained, is to set up the post-catastrophic world. To ensure that this "New World" [note the term] is the one the controllers want, totalitarian control structures need to be in place when the catastrophe occurs - with an excuse that the populace will accept and demand them.

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