The Bible is not the Word

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Here;s the truth of the WORD and its relation to the bible.

The WORD is God. Technincally, the bible is not God. Never was. But if we are talking about the message of the bible, NOT AMONG WHAT IS IN THE BIBLE, but the entire message of the bible... the meanings and the intention of what was written as though God had a specific understanding and interpretation in mind when he inspired men to write the books it contains... that is God. WORD is LOGOS. It is one's thoughts or plans. People's word conveys to others who that person is. From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. In other words, the person's heart is revealed. And the heart of the person is essentially the person. So the Bible that's made up of ink and paper and glue and binding and cover material is not what we're talking about when WE say BIBLE. WE are talking about the MESSAGE beneath all those ink shapes and pages. The understanding we are meant to have is that mankind was God's image, given a kingdom and made and created to contain God's Spirit and manifest it to the physical universe around him. Man lost that image and kingdom, and was marred. So, God made a plan for us to return to that place. Once that work of returning us is completed, we'll then move on into the eternals and commence with the original plan God had in manifesting through us into the physical universe.

EVERYTHING IN THE BIBLE is saying this single overall message. THAT is the word. It's not all of what the word is, because God cannot be wholly comprehended. But everything in the bible is wholly that WORD. And there's nothing we will ever learn about the entirety of the word that contradicts the Word that's in the bible.

[Esaias]

Interesting.

When I say the Word is not only the Word of God, but IS God, and hold up my leather bound Bible, I can say "THIS BIBLE IS ACTUALLY GOD IN WRITTEN FORM".

And although I do not mean the leather, glue, stitching, and ink is God, but rather the logoi contained therein and existing as printed words collected together, nevertheless it would not be incorrect to say "The Bible Is God".

JUST AS we can say Christ is God, not that human flesh and bone is God, nor that human nature is God, but that HE WHO IS EXISTING as the Man From Galilee IS GOD.

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Originally Posted by Esaias

Interesting.

When I say the Word is not only the Word of God, but IS God, and hold up my leather bound Bible, I can say "THIS BIBLE IS ACTUALLY GOD IN WRITTEN FORM".

And although I do not mean the leather, glue, stitching, and ink is God, but rather the logoi contained therein and existing as printed words collected together, nevertheless it would not be incorrect to say "The Bible Is God".

JUST AS we can say Christ is God, not that human flesh and bone is God, nor that human nature is God, but that HE WHO IS EXISTING as the Man From Galilee IS GOD.

Yes!

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Here;s the truth of the WORD and its relation to the bible.

The WORD is God. Technincally, the bible is not God. Never was. But if we are talking about the message of the bible, NOT AMONG WHAT IS IN THE BIBLE, but the entire message of the bible... the meanings and the intention of what was written as though God had a specific understanding and interpretation in mind when he inspired men to write the books it contains... that is God. WORD is LOGOS. It is one's thoughts or plans. People's word conveys to others who that person is. From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. In other words, the person's heart is revealed. And the heart of the person is essentially the person. So the Bible that's made up of ink and paper and glue and binding and cover material is not what we're talking about when WE say BIBLE. WE are talking about the MESSAGE beneath all those ink shapes and pages. The understanding we are meant to have is that mankind was God's image, given a kingdom and made and created to contain God's Spirit and manifest it to the physical universe around him. Man lost that image and kingdom, and was marred. So, God made a plan for us to return to that place. Once that work of returning us is completed, we'll then move on into the eternals and commence with the original plan God had in manifesting through us into the physical universe.

EVERYTHING IN THE BIBLE is saying this single overall message. THAT is the word. It's not all of what the word is, because God cannot be wholly comprehended. But everything in the bible is wholly that WORD. And there's nothing we will ever learn about the entirety of the word that contradicts the Word that's in the bible.

That is awesome Bro.!

God has spoken many things to us, and they are combined together in one place. The Word is Jesus, and the words of Jesus, both through the OT and NT are gathered in one book of books with the same message throughout.

Quite simple, except to one who does not want to believe, the in-house resident gnostic.

[shazeep]

cool. so then "...and the bible was God" is ok, after all, and Passover is now Easter, and mansions rather than nests it is. Oh, and the fire in in the bad place, and God is not the All~Consuming Fire. works for me, ladies. glad we got all that cleared up. whew!

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

cool. so then "...and the bible was God" is ok, after all, and Passover is now Easter, and mansions rather than nests it is. Oh, and the fire in in the bad place, and God is not the All~Consuming Fire. works for me, ladies. glad we got all that cleared up. whew!

I thought you said goodbye.

[shazeep]

A final thought though, that might get someone to the Word--which after all, was the whole point, before the locusts showed up;

When you make a promise, you give your "word;" which the Book expressly forbids you to do, doesn't It.

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Originally Posted by shazeep

A final thought though, that might get someone to the Word--which after all, was the whole point, before the locusts showed up;

When you make a promise, you give your "word;" which the Book expressly forbids you to do, doesn't It.

Then why did you not leave once you said goodbye?

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2 Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

Peter spoke about things Paul wrote.
• He said GOD gave Paul wisdom.
• And Peter was the one who walked with the Lord in the inner circle of all the apostles while Jesus was on earth.

Peter said Paul wrote some things hard to be understood.

2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

How would the words in the bible not be the word of God if taking words like those of Paul and wresting them would bring about one's own destruction? Mere words of Paul would not destroy us if we wrested them. Only words of God would destroy us if we wrested them.

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God is like the Tree of life. No one can eat a tree. No one can wholly know all of God. But the tree had fruit on it, like Christ was the word made flesh whose blood and flesh stand for his word made flesh, and we eat and drink of it. Eating and drinking all speak of receiving the word. And especially the word of the cross. Flesh was broken and blood was poured on the cross.

He is the fruit that hanged from the tree of life, the cross. The word of God made flesh. The fulness of the godhead is in Him bodily. It is God in reachable form. God in a form we can receive. Nothing about God is contradicted in Christ. And all of God is in Christ as much as a cup of water contains all that he ocean waters of the earth essentially are in and of themselves. If we ate the fruit whose seed is in itself, we've essentially received the entire tree.