Romney VP Pick Today 9AM

[deacon blues]

Nitehawk---that doesn't matter, the OB/GYN doesn't believe in sub sandwiches for all!

RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by CC1

It bothers me because I have three young adult children and two beautiful young grandaughters ages 2 and almost 4. I want to do everything possible to slow down this nations headlong rush to socialism and hedonism.

Despite all of their flaws Republicans represent a distinct and much better pathway forward for our Nation that is in a crisis right now. You are so invested in your gripes you are blind to the overall picture.

Do you make me angry? Yes, because what is at stake is so much more important than your little hissy fit over sandwiches given at a rally or rules you think are not being followed by the party. In light of the situation in our nation it is absurd to not vote because of that.

At the end of the day it is simply a case of sour grapes. Your guys didn't win. If Obama wins because of people like you then you truly will have cut off your nose to spite your face. No person can claim to have the best interest of this country at heart and not cast a vote that will remove Obama from office.

I thought you gave up on me. lol

It's interesting that we have an ongoing conversation and in the midst, I bring up the subs, which had a formal complaint filed toward it, and you make the whole conversation and view against Romney about sandwiches with your buddies tripping along behind you throwing daisies in your honor.

I think I have enough documented links and videos, on various threads, as to the whys for my non-support of ORomney. My view of him has not changed throughout this campaign.

And I find it interesting that you chose to direct the issue to the subs when I quoted his "progressive" mindset regarding the Boy Scouts. He wants pedofiles in the Boy Scouts. That is much more important than a subway sandwich. Don't ya think?

He has never given me a reason to believe he is anything other than a Progressive Republican and I won't vote for a Marxist nor a Progressive.

And really, it isn't going to matter all that much. When Chief Justice Roberts set his precedent, he gave the government the unlimited powers of taxation, which is also giving them the unlimited powers of coercion. What that means is that it destroys any legal resistance to anything and nullifies any legal redress. This is a completely new paradigm and it was set by an appointed Conservative.

We have been living under a created dictatorship with every president since after Ronald Regan. Study the NDAA and find out that Romney and Ryan voted for that. Not much different than Obama.

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Originally Posted by deacon blues

If you give a man a fish....

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Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

The answer to America's problems per PO is to not vote Romney/Ryan, but to instead for the idiot gynecologist with the tin foil cap.

Great thinking there PO, great thinking indeed. Let's vote for the senile gyno who wants to abandon Israel. Woo hoo!

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Nitehawk---that doesn't matter, the OB/GYN doesn't believe in sub sandwiches for all!

RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT!

I see that you both want to be take the conversation where it never went.

Ron Paul never intended nor thought he would win the White House. His supporters did, but I don't think he did. His intention was to corral the RNC back to it's roots of small government and less intervention. That is something I can agree with. That is another reason he is keeping his delegates so that they can have a voice in Tampa regarding these issues.

My point with the Paul supporters is that they were very well organized, something that Romney's people were chided over for not having a ground game at the Conventions, and were unseated with dishonest tactics by the Romney campaign and I am against that - for any party.

If you support dishonesty, then there is no conversation here to be had.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

We appreciate you adding nothing bit utter hopelessness to the debate. Thank you.

With Obama we KNOW what we're going to get. He is beholden to NOTHING remotely conservative. And unlike Clinton, he DOESNT CARE to move to the center to at least give piecemeal nods to conservative ideals.

With Romney/Ryan there is at least a better than ZERO chance for something conservative and honoring of the Constitution. As Republicans they know they cant get reelected without the right wing of the party. They will AT LEAST have to be conscious of their conservative base or risk a significant third party movement in the midterms or in 2016 and forever lose their ability to be a majority party.

That doesn't sound like much to hang on to but that's better than giving up altogether which it appears you have done.

I don't offer 'utter hopelessness'. I am talking about let's get our heads out fo the sand and quit with this delusional nonsense that happens every presidential election cycle.

The GOP and the Democratic party are both becoming more and more irrelevent to Americans.

It's only a matter of time before both wind up in the same drawer as the Whigs.

With Romney we also know what we are going to get - a RHINO, pure and simple. A socialist who belongs in the Democratic party.

The 'establishment' (Beltway insiders) run both parties and both are running America into oblivion.

And until we the people get right with GOD, it's just going to get worse.

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Originally Posted by Esaias

I don't offer 'utter hopelessness'. I am talking about let's get our heads out fo the sand and quit with this delusional nonsense that happens every presidential election cycle.

The GOP and the Democratic party are both becoming more and more irrelevent to Americans.

It's only a matter of time before both wind up in the same drawer as the Whigs.

With Romney we also know what we are going to get - a RHINO, pure and simple. A socialist who belongs in the Democratic party.

The 'establishment' (Beltway insiders) run both parties and both are running America into oblivion.

And until we the people get right with GOD, it's just going to get worse.

This is the reality.

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I am glad that someone sees reality and the truth. Thank you, Alan Keys.

2012: America’s heads they win tails we lose election

How ironic that Paul Ryan should be touted as a hero of the Tea Party when he was one of the leaders directly involved in that re-education. He helped to induce many of the Tea Party Freshmen class to betray their constituents, with votes that (like his own) supported the borrow/spend binge. How ironic that if the Romney/Ryan ticket loses, Ryan will be positioned as a lightning rod through which to pass the blame along to the Tea Party grassroots, even though in factual effect, he acted against their interests.

http://loyaltoliberty.com/?p=1230

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I am glad that someone sees reality and the truth. Thank you, Alan Keys.

PO - have you ever heard of Henry Clay?
Sometimes you have to reach "common ground" to get things moving.
It's called compromise.
Those of us who are married know it well.
Thanks

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

This is the reality.

The reality is that America has become liberal enough that any candidate with a chance to win is going not be as conservative as they should be.

However when the choice is rushing towards a cliff at 120 mph vs rushing towards it at 45 mph I will take 45 mph any day of the week.

For example when it comes to judges a Romney appointed Supreme Court Justice would most likely be more moderate than conservative. However an Obama appointed Supreme Court Justice (or any other Federal Judicial appointment) is 100% for sure going to be a left wing liberal who will bend and twist the constitution. It is irresponsible not to opt for the option that at least has a chance of being ok.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by CC1

The reality is that America has become liberal enough that any candidate with a chance to win is going not be as conservative as they should be.

However when the choice is rushing towards a cliff at 120 mph vs rushing towards it at 45 mph I will take 45 mph any day of the week.

For example when it comes to judges a Romney appointed Supreme Court Justice would most likely be more moderate than conservative. However an Obama appointed Supreme Court Justice (or any other Federal Judicial appointment) is 100% for sure going to be a left wing liberal who will bend and twist the constitution. It is irresponsible not to opt for the option that at least has a chance of being ok.

Really? You think so? Like Marianne Hinkle and Stephen Abany who Romney didn't hesitate to put on the bench in Massachusetts? Both of them were extreme homosexuals with a very long history of pro-gay activism. The problem with this is that they believe they trump our First Amendment rights. i.e. Chick-fil-A.

http://youtu.be/Eh1TcR0EzAQ