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Old 04-15-2008, 05:39 PM
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Can't do that if they are married, Prax.
Well, aren't they saying the first wife is the only one really "married"? That would mean all the other wives are not married.
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Old 04-15-2008, 05:46 PM
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Well, aren't they saying the first wife is the only one really "married"? That would mean all the other wives are not married.
Maybe, but I am sure a court would have to first nullify the marriage based on it being a multiple marriage. This is another reason why I think this whole situation is going to take years to settle in the courts. It's one to say A or B, but it is another thing entirely for what is said to carry the weight of the law behind it. So, in other words, the courts may eventually determine these underage mothers to be victims of molestation, but the court first has to establish that their marriages were never legal in the first place.
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Old 04-15-2008, 05:51 PM
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I think the State of Texas is setting itself up for many many lawsuits. If it prevails, the ramifications could be devastating for parental rights in this country.
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Old 04-15-2008, 05:57 PM
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It's very simple. You get each mother with their children. Ask the age of the oldest. Ask the mothers age. Subtract. If it is under the age of consent arrest the father.
That's what I am saying... I even understand a court ordered DNA sample from everyone in the community.
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Can't do that if they are married, Prax.
Yes you can. If they were under the age of consent when he had sex with her that is still statutory rape
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Well, aren't they saying the first wife is the only one really "married"? That would mean all the other wives are not married.
Polygamy is illegal. Perhaps both husband and wives can be brought up on charges, however if she was under the age of consent then only he would be on both charges of polygamy and statutory rape
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Yes you can. If they were under the age of consent when he had sex with her that is still statutory rape
Not if you are married.
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Old 04-15-2008, 06:35 PM
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Not if you are married.
Rico....age of consent for MARRAIGE not sex.

It's 16 only with parents consent. If she is 15 when they get married they broke the law and I might assume are not legally married anyways. If she is his second wife they are NOT really married legally either. The age of consent in Texas for having sex 17 unless married.
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Old 04-15-2008, 06:41 PM
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Rico....age of consent for MARRAIGE not sex.

It's 16 only with parents consent. If she is 15 when they get married they broke the law and I might assume are not legally married anyways. If she is his second wife they are NOT really married legally either. The age of consent in Texas for having sex 17 unless married.
If it hasn't been consumated, it isn't a marriage and grounds for annulment. The statutory rape laws don't apply to married folks, Prax, unless they were having sex prior to getting married. Also, until a court declares the second marriage invalid, it is valid, even though it is a second marriage. You aren't in violation of any laws in this country until you are convicted in a court of law, Prax. It's the foundation of the legal system. Innocent until proven guilty.
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Old 04-15-2008, 07:01 PM
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That's not correct. An insurance company can deny you the coverage when you apply for it, but, once the policy is issued, they can not deny claims because you have gained weight.
Rico, I didn't say that. I said that if you are going to purchase it and going through all the motions, but you are overweight, in spite of being otherwise healthy, they can deny you coverage. I didn't say that once it's in place they can then deny you.

However, if your weight is a problem and is costing them money, they can drop you eventually.

It's clear that they have the power.
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