What else can you say about the same theology that proposes one doe snot need scripture? After all, why need the bible if you have dreams?
The truth is the Spirit and the Word agree. The Spirit never gives a dream that relates general concepts that are absent from the bible.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
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It makes no difference whether you study in the holy language, or in Arabic, or Aramaic [or in Greek or even in English]; it matters only whether it is done with understanding. - Moshe Maimonides.
Some folks actually believe the deeper things of God are not in the bible.
Mike, you mean like: "more than truth"?
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The Gospel of Jesus Christ: Jesus bore away my sins, my sickness, and my poverty. That covers it all. Everything else is just legalism.
Issues that are raised like this are fascinating to the natural mind. But the spiritual man has no desire for them. And the bible does not elaborate on these things nor speak them forth plainly. But there is a carnal urge to claim understanding in things that are ethereal, but not necessarily truth. Pride goes with that, I think.
__________________ ...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Yes, can you please send some coffee and donuts to the AFF. They are in desperate need of sugar.
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Joelel....High -5 dude for hanging in there.
Really...could we be any more childish around here?
I guess this is my first complaint here. For the most part, I have a great sence of humor, really, I do. And I really have taken a liking to this forum. But the jesting has gone on for several pages. I can just imagine if I decided to post a question or opinion of belief on scripture. Unless Joelel doesn't mind....I'm just making a general comment.
I accually appreacate Joelel's thoughts on the subject.
If you are secure in what you believe, than be secure, don't beat up someone else for their thoughts. Whether Joelel believes it or not isn't the problem; it's how it's been handled.
I say all this because a year ago I was presented with some off the wall explainations about Eden. I dismmissed them. I was shocked. I prayed to God, that if any of this info had any truth to it, that you (God) would tell me, otherwise renew and secure what I have always been taught.
That Adam and Eve had many children, in Eden and before Seth.
However, I always questioned this off and on over the years.
Now almost a year later I am knee deep in a bible study on a different forum. *shock* I asked who were the Nephilim? Gen 6:4
Here are a few sites...hope its ok...
This has all been brought up in studies again and.....I like to study.
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Rom.8:38,39-For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither heigth nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to seperate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Yes, can you please send some coffee and donuts to the AFF. They are in desperate need of sugar.
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Joelel....High -5 dude for hanging in there.
Really...could we be any more childish around here?
I guess this is my first complaint here. For the most part, I have a great sence of humor, really, I do. And I really have taken a liking to this forum. But the jesting has gone on for several pages. I can just imagine if I decided to post a question or opinion of belief on scripture. Unless Joelel doesn't mind....I'm just making a general comment.
I accually appreacate Joelel's thoughts on the subject.
If you are secure in what you believe, than be secure, don't beat up someone else for their thoughts. Whether Joelel believes it or not isn't the problem; it's how it's been handled.
I say all this because a year ago I was presented with some off the wall explainations about Eden. I dismmissed them. I was shocked. I prayed to God, that if any of this info had any truth to it, that you (God) would tell me, otherwise renew and secure what I have always been taught.
That Adam and Eve had many children, in Eden and before Seth.
However, I always questioned this off and on over the years.
Now almost a year later I am knee deep in a bible study on a different forum. *shock* I asked who were the Nephilim? Gen 6:4
Here are a few sites...hope its ok...
So you think it has been all everyone else and not Joel?
hummmm...you didn't like the donuts I had sent, huh Praxeas?
I'm not trying to start a fire , er, I mean a fuss. I'm just observing a trainwreaked topic...that's all.
To me Joelel was just asking a simple question....now I don't know Joelel very well to have even made my previous post,(I'm new here)...maybe you know him better than I, since he does have over 1000 posts already.
Maybe I should have minded my own buisness.....
Maybe....I'm just sayin
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Rom.8:38,39-For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither heigth nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to seperate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
What else can you say about the same theology that proposes one doe snot need scripture? After all, why need the bible if you have dreams?
Mike, since you mentioned "snot", here's a tissue.
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The Gospel of Jesus Christ: Jesus bore away my sins, my sickness, and my poverty. That covers it all. Everything else is just legalism.
hummmm...you didn't like the donuts I had sent, huh Praxeas?
I'm not trying to start a fire , er, I mean a fuss. I'm just observing a trainwreaked topic...that's all.
To me Joelel was just asking a simple question....now I don't know Joelel very well to have even made my previous post,(I'm new here)...maybe you know him better than I, since he does have over 1000 posts already.
Maybe I should have minded my own buisness.....
Maybe....I'm just sayin
Joel was not just asking a simple question. He was arguing a point and we are disagreeing.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
, er, I mean a fuss. I'm just observing a trainwreaked topic...that's all.
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