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Old 09-22-2008, 07:35 PM
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Can you explain that to me.
sure, they cant be there and here at the same time.

if we werent there, they would be here.
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:45 PM
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Voting Ron Paul here! I know he has no chance of winning, but I can't vote for either of the two party candidates with a clean conscience.

Keeping it real!
At times I have expressed a desire to see "none of the above" added to the ballot.

Often when I vote, I don't vote for a person but against a person. Some times I think I am choosing the lesser of two evils.

I may not agree with everything John McCain says he is for but he is a lot closer to what I want than Barack Obama is. Therefore, I have to vote for McCain rather than avoid voting or vote for someone who doesn't have a chance to win. By voting for McCain, it is one more vote against Obama and one less chance of Obama's winning.
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:56 PM
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Ferd,
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She is beautiful. She's been a Governor for less than 2 years. She was Mayor of a town that has less people in it than my neighborhood.

Sure she is qualified to be President if McCain dies in his sleep 3 months after they win the election!
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I agree that Sarah Palin is a nice looking lady. As a state governor and former mayor, she has more executive experience than Obama. She is also commander of Alaska's National Guard. Because of the location of Alaska, she probably is a lot more informed on international events than she is given credit for.
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Re: Remind me - Who is voting FOR McCain?

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sure, they cant be there and here at the same time.

if we werent there, they would be here.

Whatever!

Tying the amount of terrorists in this country to the War in Iraq is absurd. I'm certain that the terrorists plotting against this country have tried to get into America before they set up shop in Iraq. Iraq is only ANOTHER means of inflicting terror and loss on this country.

Most of them, thankfully, can't get into this country and that has NOTHING to do with the Iraq war. After 9/11 the proper security upgrades were made and terrorists watch lists were created by Homeland security and others. Who came and went in this country was/is under a microscope as it should be. The Bush administration and Congress deserve credit for securing the homeland after 9/11. The terrorists ability to come HERE to fight was dealt with by doing that, not by invading Iraq. I don't believe for a second that if we weren't in Iraq, suddenly all of these terrorists would be slipping through our borders and rendering our security measures useless.

Besides, the majority of the sect of al-qaeda responsible for 9/11 never went to Iraq. They're still in the hills of northeast Pakistan rebuilding and plotting their next attack on America while we police Iraq.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:31 PM
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Seriously ... anti-Obama threads/posts probably outnumber pro-McCain threads/posts 20 to 1?

And more has been said in defense of Palin than the Presidential candidate who apparently would be on the ticket if he was headless
Very simple Dan. An Obama presidency would be VERY dangerous for America and the world. Of course you would want to know specifics and I could enumerate them here, but honestly I am very sleepy and don't have the patience for listing what should be obvious to anyone who has conservative values, is pro-American, pro-life, pro-military, pro-Israel, anti-gay agenda, anti-socialism, anti-black liberation theology, anti-liberalism, etc.

McCain may not have been the ideal choice for those who will vote for him, he certainly dwarfs Obama when it comes to what we are hoping for in a President.

Should Obama get elected, the eye opener that all of America will experience will speak for itself. Then these debates as to why we were willing to be anti-Obama will be painfully transparent.
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:23 PM
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I've heard of this from a couple or maybe three different places.
It may be just a rumor.
I have no idea how true it is.
I'm just passing it on with no comment.
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from excellent sources within the DNC:
On or about October 5th, Biden will excuse himself from the ticket, citing health problems, and he will be replaced by Hillary. This is timed to occur after the VP debate on 10/2.

I have already seen a few short blurbs about this - the "health problem" cited in those articles was aneurysm. probably many of you have heard the same rumblings. However, at this point, with this inside info from the DNC, it looks like this Obama strategy will be a go. Therefore, it seems that the best strategy is to get out in front of this obama maneuver, spell it out in detail, and thereby expose it for the grand manipulation that it is.

So, let's start mixing this one up and cut the obamites off at the pass - send this info out to as many people as you can - post about it on websites and blogs - etc etc
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At times I have expressed a desire to see "none of the above" added to the ballot.

Often when I vote, I don't vote for a person but against a person. Some times I think I am choosing the lesser of two evils.

I may not agree with everything John McCain says he is for but he is a lot closer to what I want than Barack Obama is. Therefore, I have to vote for McCain rather than avoid voting or vote for someone who doesn't have a chance to win. By voting for McCain, it is one more vote against Obama and one less chance of Obama's winning.

This best descibes my voting sentiments! And I can say I have voted in every presidential election since 1972 .
I may be considered liberal in apostolic circles but politically I am totally conservative....even UC
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Very simple Dan. An Obama presidency would be VERY dangerous for America and the world. Of course you would want to know specifics and I could enumerate them here, but honestly I am very sleepy and don't have the patience for listing what should be obvious to anyone who has conservative values, is pro-American, pro-life, pro-military, pro-Israel, anti-gay agenda, anti-socialism, anti-black liberation theology, anti-liberalism, etc.

McCain may not have been the ideal choice for those who will vote for him, he certainly dwarfs Obama when it comes to what we are hoping for in a President.

Should Obama get elected, the eye opener that all of America will experience will speak for itself. Then these debates as to why we were willing to be anti-Obama will be painfully transparent.

Thank you for putting that into words.
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This best descibes my voting sentiments! And I can say I have voted in every presidential election since 1972 .
I may be considered liberal in apostolic circles but politically I am totally conservative....even UC
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Old 09-23-2008, 08:07 AM
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Well if you have links from news agenices or some other reputable reporting agency with confirmed information on Obama being Muslim, I'll look at it. I won't take some right wing fanatical group or bloggers words and just trust them.

I'm open for all reputable, documented, accurate information on Barack Obama being a Muslim. Up until now, no respected news agency has found that to be the case.
Mike,
I don't have a source and from what I can see we won't find a source that proves that Obama "practices" the Muslim faith.

What we can see is that he is in bed with many questionable people. It's rather funny how these characters can come under investigation or indictment and he hands their campaign contributions back to them or dumps them into some charity. Rezko, Nadhmi Auchi and Al Chaib, to name a few. You can check these guys out and go from there. Some he claims he doesn't recall ever meeting, like Auchi, when witnesses, at Rezko's mansion, say Obama and his wife were at a certain dinner in attendance with Auchi.

It is also interesting that David Alexlrod, Obama's chief strategist's mother was a writer for PM, a leftist tabloid newspaper published in NY from 1940-1948. Going by Obama's background it can be understood that they were both raised and mentored by people involved in socialism.

"For my mother, organized religion too often dressed up closed-mindedness in the garb of piety, cruelty and oppression in the cloak of righteousness. The Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek and Norse and African mythology." Obama, also, saying his father was raised a Muslim and became an Atheist - he says.

Obama finds his roots in the Luo tribe in Kenya and helps support a guy named, Raila Odinga, who is also a radical leftist politician educated in communist East Germany. Odinga now appears to have allied with radical Muslims in Kenya whose main agenda is to advance the cause of Islam, aggressively, in Africa.

A Kenyan newspaper and television news reports that Odinga, who represents the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) , and Sheikh Abdulla Abdi, the chairman of the National Muslim Leaders Forum (NAMLEF), signed an agreement on August 29, 2007. A "whereas clause" in the agreement appears to recognize "Islam as the only true religion." That gives Sharia law a more stronghold on the Horn of Africa which is already dominating in Somalia and Sudan.

If Obama were to win the White House, he would be the first President NOT to have family on American soil.


What about his Christian faith? In Obama's autobiography he openly tells of reading the black radicals and civil rights figures of the 1960's. He said he found his greatest affinity with Malcolm X.

On joining the United Church of Christ, Obama had to have comprehended that he was joining a church who based it's principles on the black-liberation theology that Rev. Wright embraced and professed. We find that he doesn't ever share that he had an epiphany when he came to Christ. This is what he said after being instructed by leaders that he needed to tie in with a church in order to reach the community.

"That religious commitment did not require me to suspend critical thinking, disengage from the battle for economic and social justice, or otherwise retreat from the world I knew and loved." It seems, IMO, that his decision to become a "Christian" was a choice and not an epiphany.

I could go on about Louis Farrakhan, the Black Muslim and how Obama was in attendance at his Million Man March in Washington, D.C. - saying himself, that he "took time off" to be in attendance.

I'm also concerned about his associations and "hand outs" he can give behind the scenes as he did in Chicago, people he can appoint like, Cynthia K. Miller ( who is a member of Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam sect ) and was the Official Treasurer of Obama's U.S. Senate Campaign. Jennifer Mason, whom is also a member of the Nation of Islam. Mason is Obama’s Director of Constituent Services in his U.S. Senate office and is also in charge of selecting Obama’s Senate interns.

So, I stand with Ferd, who did a superb job, as usual, laying out the reasons we vote McCain. I also can see that I don't have to deal with all the socialist, liberal, communist, black-liberation theology with McCain that I have to take with Obama. So, yes, Daniel, I am "against" him in every way, shape and form.

I agreed with McCain when he voted "against" Bush's tax cuts, solely, because there was no mention of cutting back on governmental spending. I am not for this bailout, as is, because if we don't curb the spending it is wasted money.

This troubling wording on the bailout proposal is also very disturbing:

Section 8 Review "Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/bu...in&oref=slogin
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