The Bible is not the Word

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See K, what you are not seeing is that you guys already chased all the hippies away, huh; i mean LOVEJESUS still lurks, and posts now and then...And so then you prolly got somebody else, a bunch of them, between me and the hippies, or maybe not, i don't know, i'm thinkin Gd, and Antipas, and ol' Jim, Amanah, Esaias even, maybe, i'm just naming names--what happened to GS? Where he been at?...1 post a day, hmm--but now you got me.

Because E is gone now, and Gd is just. not. interested any more, and when is the last time you saw Antipas. So now you got me, me is what you got. And you see where this is going, right, it doesn't get better;

when i go, or get blocked--and sure, i could come back, for a third time; even stronger, but i won't--you are going to really be gnashing your teeth then, ok?

So you might trust me on this, just a little; you guys are still having fun, right now.

I never asked anyone to believe what i am saying.

I made it plain, more than once, that you are fine with me, just like you are.

All i did was maybe bump into your Sacred Cows a little bit; the next guy is bringing a sword, K, and he is going to slaughter them, alright? Because i don't know jack.

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Originally Posted by pinacled

So many sparrows singing?

We have descriptions in The Apocalypse of Abraham, a first- or second-century A.D. text of pre-Rabbinic Judaism, of the great patriarch and an angel making their way to heaven by aid of a pigeon’s and turtledove’s wings (5). And in other writings, we learn that sparrows sing as spirits continue to be born, set forth from the Guf, a mysterious storehouse of souls. However, once the last spirit departs from this realm, the songs of sparrows will cease and the world will soon end (6).

-A virtuous woman is a CROWN to her husband:


…47But Jesus, knowing the thoughts of their hearts, had a little child stand beside Him. 48AndHe said to them, “Whoever welcomes this little child in My name welcomes Me, and whoeverwelcomes Me welcomes the One who sent Me.For whoever is the least among all of you, he is the greatest.”

1For the conductor, on jeduthun, a song of David. אלַמְנַצֵּחַ עַל יְדוּתוּן מִזְמוֹר לְדָוִד:
2Only to God does my soul hope; from Him is my salvation. באַךְ אֶל אֱלֹהִים דוּמִיָּה נַפְשִׁי מִמֶּנּוּ יְשׁוּעָתִי:
3Only He is my Rock and my salvation, my stronghold so that I shall not falter greatly. גאַךְ הוּא צוּרִי וִישׁוּעָתִי מִשְׂגַּבִּי לֹא אֶמּוֹט רַבָּה:
4How long will you plan destruction to man? You shall be murdered, all of you, as a leaning wall, a tottering fence. דעַד אָנָה | תְּהוֹתְתוּ עַל אִישׁ תְּרָצְּחוּ כֻלְּכֶם כְּקִיר נָטוּי גָּדֵר הַדְּחוּיָה:
5Only because of his loftiness have they plotted to topple him; they delight in lies; with his mouth they bless, but inwardly they curse forever. האַךְ מִשְּׂאֵתוֹ | יָעֲצוּ לְהַדִּיחַ יִרְצוּ כָזָב בְּפִיו יְבָרֵכוּ וּבְקִרְבָּם יְקַלְלוּ סֶלָה:
6Only to God should you hope, my soul, for my hope is from Him. ואַךְ לֵאלֹהִים דֹּמִּי נַפְשִׁי כִּי מִמֶּנּוּ תִּקְוָתִי:
7Only He is my Rock and my salvation; my stronghold, I shall not falter. זאַךְ הוּא צוּרִי וִישׁוּעָתִי מִשְׂגַּבִּי לֹא אֶמּוֹט:
8Upon God rests my salvation and my honor; [He is] the Rock of my strength, my shelter is in God. חעַל אֱלֹהִים יִשְׁעִי וּכְבוֹדִי צוּר עֻזִּי מַחְסִי בֵּאלֹהִים:
9Trust in Him at all times; people, pour out your hearts before Him. God is our shelter forever. טבִּטְחוּ בוֹ בְכָל עֵת | עָם שִׁפְכוּ לְפָנָיו לְבַבְכֶם אֱלֹהִים מַחֲסֶה לָּנוּ סֶלָה:
10The sons of men are but vanity, and men of distinction are deceitful; were they to be put on a scale, together they would equal vanity. יאַךְ הֶבֶל בְּנֵי אָדָם כָּזָב בְּנֵי אִישׁ בְּמֹאזְנַיִם לַעֲלוֹת הֵמָּה מֵהֶבֶל יָחַד:
11Do not trust in oppression, and do not put vain hope in robbery; if wealth burgeons, pay it no heed. יאאַל תִּבְטְחוּ בְעֹשֶׁק וּבְגָזֵל אַל תֶּהְבָּלוּ חַיִל | כִּי יָנוּב אַל תָּשִׁיתוּ לֵב:
12God spoke one thing, I heard two, for God has strength. יבאַחַת | דִּבֶּר אֱלֹהִים שְׁתַּיִם זוּ שָׁמָעְתִּי כִּי עֹז לֵאלֹהִים:
13And You, O Lord, have kindness, for You repay a man according to his deed. יגוּלְךָ אֲדֹנָי חָסֶד כִּי אַתָּה תְשַׁלֵּם לְאִישׁ כְּמַעֲשֵׂהוּ:


For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue, and virtue with knowledge,

Originally Posted by Rbbi1

Amen, they shall sing a new song. To sing means to RAISE THE VOICE (out of the dust realm) in harmonious melody. Our conversation is from heaven. You can't speak (or sing) from a place you've never been. Peace

Originally Posted by pinacled

I read that the birds were made from both earth and water.

Who else to sing but those who see.


1To the conductor, of David; I took refuge in the Lord. How do you say to my soul, "Wander from your mountain, Unregistered bird"?

Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his faithful servants.

Originally Posted by pinacled

The order of the daily songs have a deep significance, and there is a mystical connection which each song had for the particular day it was sung. The Oral Tradition has preserved the listing of the Levitical songs that were sung each day in the Holy Temple, and various commentators and sages have explained some of the connections which can be seen between these songs and the days of the week.. (Based on Tamid 7:4)



http://halakhah.com/pdf/kodoshim/Tamid.pdf

A meekness so many deem unworthy
"flowers of the priesthood",

Originally Posted by daqq

Interesting, I was just studying this yesterday in relationship to the statement from Revelation 22:12, that is, the final statement, (verses twelve and thirteen), which as you see in the above has Adonai, while the rest of the passage has Elohim.

Originally Posted by pinacled

Oh, I hadnt noticed.
Thankyou and Bless you.

12God spoke one thing, I heard two, for God has strength. יבאַחַת | דִּבֶּר אֱלֹהִים שְׁתַּיִם זוּ שָׁמָעְתִּי כִּי עֹז לֵאלֹהִים:
13And You, O Lord, have kindness, for You repay a man according to his deed. יגוּלְךָ אֲדֹנָי חָסֶד כִּי אַתָּה תְשַׁלֵּם לְאִישׁ כְּמַעֲשֵׂהוּ:

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[shazeep]

Ok, so once you have found the Word-


which that is going to be like stepping off a cliff, ok
it is going to be the hardest thing to do
right after finding the Word
this next thing


-and you step off, into the air


the next thing, obviously, that you wanna do



is find out where th you are;
how far from Egypt you have come.
how close to the Promised Land you are.


so now what i'm hearing is you gotta go find out
where you are in your weeks,
is what i'm hearing.


but i do not know what that means yet

[shazeep]

ah, i guess Esaias does though

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Originally Posted by bbyrd009

well, with your perspective on Word we are likely agreeing in raised voices...but see that there are eklectrons that move into lower orbits, when Word is written into a Book; into the world, where moths and rust corrupt. not saying that the Book will not fulfill It's function; but that a reality of manifestation is not being respected. the moment It manifests, yes, It is still Word, perhaps, while the Breath is still blowing. but we do not have the Hebrew NT do we; but we still want the Book, with It's Easter and It's Mansions in the sky, to be Word. If Bible is Word, then you have to throw out some of the Bible, now, don't you; you have to corrupt It some more, imo


In the beginning was Bible, and Bible was with God, and Bible was God

Originally Posted by Rbbi1

True we don't have it. But if you go back into the Hebrew word meanings of same Greek words (or as close as you can find), because Hebrew is a pictorial language at it's roots and is much more about the mind of the Spirit than the Greek is capable of delivering, you can see more clearly what the matter is really about. I have studied it this way all of my walk, and it works. Peace

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

so, the closest i can get to Word, then--if i am hearing you right--is a Hebrew translation, of a Greek translation, of a Hebrew translation. i know where the Original is though; It is right here;

Hilkiah the high priest said to Shaphan the secretary, "I have found the Book of the Law in the temple of the LORD." He gave it to Shaphan, who read it.

"This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time," declares the LORD. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.

They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.

It is hidden in the Temple, under the Altar

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Originally Posted by bbrodriguez

ah, i guess Esaias does though

Originally Posted by daqq

Every day has a week of seven yamim-hours, (the hours of prayer), which are the third hour, the sixth hour, and the ninth hour, (with the Shabbat hour following). So from the third hour of the day unto the tenth hour of the day are seven yamim. But it does not seem to appear that those are the weeks of which you speak.

ah, well, just because i heard to go find what weeks mean, what week i am in, doesn't mean that there are any weeks, i guess, it just means go seek that to me. no telling where it will go. just seemed to make sense, being as how i'm here Wandering around, and have no idea where...oh.

Originally Posted by daqq

There is not only one harvest and it is clearly the firstfruits of the wheat harvest which is spoken of in Exodus 34:22. The wheat harvest did not begin with Passover-Unleavened Bread. In addition to that there is division over what is actually written in Leviticus 23:15-16 because the particle "min" is found but not rendered in most translations. One can read it such as it is rendered in the KJV as follows:

Leviticus 23:15-16 KJV
15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.

Or others read it more like as follows:

Leviticus 23:15-16
15 And you shall count unto you from the morrow after the Shabbat, from the day that you brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven Shabbatot shall be complete:
16 Thereupon [עַ֣ד], from the morrow [מִֽמָּחֳרַ֤ת] after the seventh Shabbat, you shall number fifty days; and you shall offer a new minchah unto YHWH.

If you count it like as the second rendering above then you have seven Sabbaths with a fifty day count following thereupon, (ninety-nine to one hundred days), and that is in addition to the fact that there is not only one harvest but rather the barley, the wheat, and the vintage with the ingathering, (and after the "turning of the year" winter also has harvesting in the second half of the year). I am not saying it must be read one way or the other just by what is posted herein above, no, but rather that one cannot tell without more study and comparison from similar, companion, and related contexts, (more information is necessary so that you may prove your love).

so, i seek for weeks, where i am in the Wilderness, what week i am in, and i get led to days and to harvests. hmm. and my gut tells me to go with the one that adds up to "Jubilee," right now anyway. But i also see that this might recycle, a la 42 months, + 42 months

what is "festival of weeks?" anybody? ty

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Weeks is Pentecost.

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Originally Posted by pinacled

Oh, I hadnt noticed.
Thankyou and Bless you.

12God spoke one thing, I heard two, for God has strength. יבאַחַת | דִּבֶּר אֱלֹהִים שְׁתַּיִם זוּ שָׁמָעְתִּי כִּי עֹז לֵאלֹהִים:
13And You, O Lord, have kindness, for You repay a man according to his deed. יגוּלְךָ אֲדֹנָי חָסֶד כִּי אַתָּה תְשַׁלֵּם לְאִישׁ כְּמַעֲשֵׂהוּ:

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

ya, i just now noticed myself

staring us right in the face

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Weeks is Pentecost.

ok well, i have heard them connected before, but that's pretty brief; can you put some meat on that? Pentecost is really just a Word to me; an event. something that happened, like, in a day, one day. Why do you say "Pentecost is weeks?" ty

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Originally Posted by shazeep

ok well, i have heard them connected before, but that's pretty brief; can you put some meat on that? Pentecost is really just a Word to me; an event. something that happened, like, in a day, one day. Why do you say "Pentecost is weeks?" ty

Deuteronomy 16:8-10 Six days thou shalt eat unleavened bread: and on the seventh day shall be a solemn assembly to the LORD thy God: thou shalt do no work therein. (9) Seven weeks shalt thou number unto thee: begin to number the seven weeks from such time as thou beginnest to put the sickle to the corn. (10) And thou shalt keep the feast of weeks unto the LORD thy God with a tribute of a freewill offering of thine hand, which thou shalt give unto the LORD thy God, according as the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:


From the feast of unleavened bread there are seven WEEKS to the next feast. Passover was followed by unleavened bread, which was followed by firstfruits.

7 weeks are 49 days. 50 is the next day when the feast of weeks starts. PENTECOST means FIFTIETH.