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[coadie]

Originally Posted by jfrog

I think that if alot of conservatice Christians were honest then they would admit they hate Obama, they hate Nancy Pelosi, and they hate many liberals, they hate women who have abortions, they hate gays, they hate muslims, they hate... Does that excuse me? Nope. But I understand it don't and also I don't try to cover it up and make myself sound Christianically Correct by saying I don't hate Christian people I just sometimes hate their actions. Of course that's probably closer to what I meant in Christianese... but to me and the rest of the non-christian world, saying you hate someone means you hate what they are doing and how they act because to us the person and their actions are so entertwined that we don't try to separate the two in our discussions.

I like Obama. Like him a lot. I am trying to send him an e-mail to schedule a golf game. I don't trust him. I will tell him it is wrong to fill out your golf score before you leave the clubhouse. We need to count actual strokes and not use ideology numbers. He strikes me as a fun guy.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Jfrog was being honest in expressing his feelings. Whether that's right or wrong, I completely understand how sometimes the family can act in embarrassing ways, in evil ways, and even make you angry.

Thanks for explaining what I meant by hate in the bolded. It all goes back to people's actions and even Christians openly admit they hate people's actions. If I was to translate what I said to Christianese then it probably would have read, "I hate Christian's actions sometimes".

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by onefaith2

All of us have to come to terms that while we despise the actions of a person, we must learn to love the person themselves. Its our flesh nature to hate and only God can deliver from that. We just have to desire to be released from it first.

You're being to Christianically correct. We all hate people. But just because we hate people doesn't mean we can't also love them. Hating them is based on their actions. Loving them based on ours. (Of course there are other kinds of hate and we should avoid having those other kinds of hate for others). As I've been saying, it all depends on what is meant by hate.

[onefaith2]

Originally Posted by jfrog

You're being to Christianically correct. We all hate people. But just because we hate people doesn't mean we can't love them. Hating them is based on their actions. Loving them based on ours. (Of course there are other kinds of hate and we should avoid having those other kinds of hate for others). As I've been saying, it all depends on what is meant by hate.

I'm not being Christianically correct. The word hate has a base meaning that is contrary to the word love. So if someone says they hate someone, its not just Christianically correct to explain what you mean, its grammatically correct also.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by onefaith2

I'm not being Christianically correct. The word hate has a base meaning that is contrary to the word love. So if someone says they hate someone, its not just Christianically correct to explain what you mean, its grammatically correct also.

The word hate and love have many different meanings. Again, you are arguing over terminology instead of concept.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Makes sense to me. Many occupations require continuing formal education, regardless the initial degree. I think Coadie is saying one's formal education should continue.

I am in 3 professions that require written records of continuing ed classes.

I say if your are not learning, your mind is deteriating. memorizing scripture is actually one of the healthiest brain exercises.

[onefaith2]

Originally Posted by jfrog

The word hate and love have many different meanings. Again, you are arguing over terminology instead of concept.

hate

–verb (used with object)
1. to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest: to hate the enemy; to hate bigotry.
2. to be unwilling; dislike: I hate to do it.
–verb (used without object)
3. to feel intense dislike, or extreme aversion or hostility.
–noun
4. intense dislike; extreme aversion or hostility.
5. the object of extreme aversion or hostility.


love

1. a profoundly tender, passionate affection for another person.
2. a feeling of warm personal attachment or deep affection, as for a parent, child, or friend.
3. sexual passion or desire.

15. to have love or affection for: All her pupils love her.
16. to have a profoundly tender, passionate affection for (another person).
17. to have a strong liking for; take great pleasure in: to love music.

21. to have love or affection for another person; be in love.
—Verb phrase
22. love up, to hug and cuddle: She loves him up every chance she gets.
—Idioms
23. for love,
a. out of affection or liking; for pleasure.
b. without compensation; gratuitously: He took care of the poor for love.
24. for the love of, in consideration of; for the sake of: For the love of mercy, stop that noise.
25. in love, infused with or feeling deep affection or passion: a youth always in love.


Jfrog I have yet to find one definition of love that can coincide with hate. I'm not quibbling over terms. These words have meanings that the english language have assigned to them. So when you say you hate someone, you must explain if you mean something different other than what is defined.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by onefaith2

hate

–verb (used with object)
1. to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest: to hate the enemy; to hate bigotry.
2. to be unwilling; dislike: I hate to do it.
–verb (used without object)
3. to feel intense dislike, or extreme aversion or hostility.
–noun
4. intense dislike; extreme aversion or hostility.
5. the object of extreme aversion or hostility.


love

1. a profoundly tender, passionate affection for another person.
2. a feeling of warm personal attachment or deep affection, as for a parent, child, or friend.
3. sexual passion or desire.

15. to have love or affection for: All her pupils love her.
16. to have a profoundly tender, passionate affection for (another person).
17. to have a strong liking for; take great pleasure in: to love music.

21. to have love or affection for another person; be in love.
—Verb phrase
22. love up, to hug and cuddle: She loves him up every chance she gets.
—Idioms
23. for love,
a. out of affection or liking; for pleasure.
b. without compensation; gratuitously: He took care of the poor for love.
24. for the love of, in consideration of; for the sake of: For the love of mercy, stop that noise.
25. in love, infused with or feeling deep affection or passion: a youth always in love.


Jfrog I have yet to find one definition of love that can coincide with hate. I'm not quibbling over terms. These words have meanings that the english language have assigned to them. So when you say you hate someone, you must explain if you mean something different other than what is defined.

Connotation over Denotation.

[onefaith2]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Connotation over Denotation.

please explain what you mean

[coadie]

Originally Posted by jfrog

The word hate and love have many different meanings. Again, you are arguing over terminology instead of concept.

Professionally speaking Ambivalence is the opposite of Love. Most people guess and say hate and love are opposites.
I see lefty radicals go from irritation to anger to hate, intense rage and after that antipathy.

Rage occurs when oxytocin, vasopressin, and corticotrophin-releasing factor are rapidly released from the hypothalamus. This results in the pituitary gland producing and releasing large amounts of the adrenocorticotropic hormone. In these outbursts of rage, people experience an addictive chemical reaction.
In Acts 16 if I recall they could break chains. If they get stuck in a straight jacket, they may fall from the peak of the adrenicortico hormonal cascade.

In street language, I know what is shakin when folks blow a gasket.