Polygamy in the Bible

[ILG]

Originally Posted by erikwebster

i'm just sola scriptura sister

i have a high respect for women, i obey the laws of our land, and i understand that in todays "real world" things are different than 20 centuries ago when christ was crucified.

but if you are gonna say its right or wrong you gotta stick with the ultimate and only 'standard' and thats the accepted cannon of scripture that we use and then interpreting it according to its original language, intent, and the history surrounding it in each time period as we are able to discern from secondary historical accounts and archeology.

Or your interpretation thereof. Don't forget that your view is merely an interpretation. Simply because you think it doesn't make it gospel truth.

[Apocrypha]

Originally Posted by ILG

Or your interpretation thereof. Don't forget that your view is merely an interpretation. Simply because you think it doesn't make it gospel truth.

then lets stick to scriptures

show me scriptures that say we have a false intepretation.. you pick the version and lets go to the original language, intent, and surrounding history (thats called hermunetics)

[ILG]

Originally Posted by erikwebster

then lets stick to scriptures

show me scriptures that say we have a false intepretation.. you pick the version and lets go to the original language, intent, and surrounding history (thats called hermunetics)

I already made my case showing that God gave Adam Eve and that was it. I also made other scriptural references. The truth is that if I put all that work into it and spent all that time, I doubt it if it will change your mind anyway.

[Dora]

I have to say that I think polygamy was a custom meant to populate the earth in the OT. Also, women are definitely in a vulnerable position in this deal. Using women as a means to elevate your social standing as if a woman is a Cadillac Escalade is just disgusting. The idea that a man having multiple wives is an acceptable lifestyle in modern times, just blows my mind. We're right back to viewing women as property, de-valuing their position in the family and in the body of Christ. I think the idea of polygamy as a viable family situation went out with the arrival of Christ. He treated women with respect and dignity. Polygamy is the antithesis of dignifying women. It put them in the place of a slave, animal or piece of property. I can't believe the CRUD I'm reading here! Where did you guys come from? Where are the men standing against this JUNK???

[Apocrypha]

Originally Posted by ILG

So, do you check the ring finger before you lust? When guys look at porn can they say "It's good thing these women don't have a wedding ring on?" Come on, where is there any respect for women here? Or do you think that women being looked at as property is biblical?

What we are discussing is different than fornication. You threw a blanket statement to condemn the men for "lusting" after another woman, and i threw back a valid alternative translation of that verse that changes its intent to be more in line with the rest of the body of scripture.

[Apocrypha]

Originally Posted by Dora

I have to say that I think polygamy was a custom meant to populate the earth in the OT. Also, women are definitely in a vulnerable position in this deal. Using women as a means to elevate your social standing as if a woman is a Cadillac Escalade is just disgusting. The idea that a man having multiple wives is an acceptable lifestyle in modern times, just blows my mind. We're right back to viewing women as property, de-valuing their position in the family and in the body of Christ. I think the idea of polygamy as a viable family situation went out with the arrival of Christ. He treated women with respect and dignity. Polygamy is the antithesis of dignifying women. It put them in the place of a slave, animal or piece of property. I can't believe the CRUD I'm reading here! Where did you guys come from? Where are the men standing against this JUNK???

I am not touching the social implications of it. Im just saying the scripture doesn't condemn it, so its not a moral issue. I am a textualist... if the bible says it I obey it.. if it doesn't i throw it into the category of personal (or in this case social/cultural) beliefs.

[Dora]

We are all one in Christ.

Galations 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Can't believe Jesus was "for polygamy." Polygamy places women in the place of a slave. How can this practice line up with the teachings of Christ - i.e. love your neighbor as yourself, do unto others as you would have done to you, etc.??? In Christ, we are elevated to equal value - no longer subjected to the OT laws and customs. Each and every human being is highly valued in the eyes of God.

[Apocrypha]

Originally Posted by Dora

We are all one in Christ.

Galations 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Can't believe Jesus was "for polygamy." Polygamy places women in the place of a slave. How can this practice line up with the teachings of Christ - i.e. love your neighbor as yourself, do unto others as you would have done to you, etc.??? In Christ, we are elevated to equal value - no longer subjected to the OT laws and customs. Each and every human being is highly valued in the eyes of God.

That sounds great .. and I agree monogamy is the ideal just looking at history.

But no, when it comes to polygamy Christ never taught against it, it was never forbidden in the NT except for leadership. And the OT took it as a normal part of society.

And it doesnt matter if it conflicts with your personal Jesus or the bible. its there and you gotta love it or not... because its as far away as your nearest bible in the house.

It hurts your conscience because it seems to go against your view of feminine roles in modern society.. i understand that. But once again single females with the ability to work a self determined job, or have financial independence is a fairly new thing that is less than 80 years old out of nearly 7,000 years of human history.

I can understand how this feels like a kick to the teeth for a moderate/liberal lady with a strong self image.. but in this case the scriptures say what they say... and they don't say what you want them to say on this particular issue.

[DividedThigh]

for the record i believe any man who thinks he can please two women is just to dumb to talk to, the country song says it best, "tryin to love two women is like a ball and chain,", you get the drift, lol, dt

[Dora]

Originally Posted by DividedThigh

for the record i believe any man who thinks he can please two women is just to dumb to talk to, the country song says it best, "tryin to love two women is like a ball and chain,", you get the drift, lol, dt

Ha!