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Old 07-08-2008, 01:23 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

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No, it doesn't because you could always grow your own food, raise your own chickens, hogs, cows and whatnot for meat. You could also go fishin for your meat. So, you see, you choose to eat the food you buy at the store.
Okay, go buy you a farm because you cannot raise cattle in a housing development or an apartment complex. Make sure the veggies that you grow come from your own garden and not some farm that uses pesticides, and why you're at it, share your wealth so that every living Apostolic can do exactly what your donig to avoid the 99.9% of the foods that God doesn't want them to eat.














Well, I guess you really don't have all the answers do you?






I know, I know its still a choice. How many people do you realistically know will do what you have suggested? Get real.
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Old 07-08-2008, 01:25 PM
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No, it doesn't because you could always grow your own food, raise your own chickens, hogs, cows and whatnot for meat. You could also go fishin for your meat. So, you see, you choose to eat the food you buy at the store.
Btw, make sure you know that the lake, pond, river, ocean, or stream that you fish in isn't contaminated with fish that has mercury in it.
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Old 07-08-2008, 01:28 PM
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Okay, go buy you a farm because you cannot raise cattle in a housing development or an apartment complex. Make sure the veggies that you grow come from your own garden and not some farm that uses pesticides, and why you're at it, share your wealth so that every living Apostolic can do exactly what your donig to avoid the 99.9% of the foods that God doesn't want them to eat.

Well, I guess you really don't have all the answers do you?

I know, I know its still a choice. How many people do you realistically know will do what you have suggested? Get real.
I can't help it if your choice to move into an urban area has made it so that you have to buy your food from a grocery store, but it was still your choice to move into an urban area, so it's still your fault!!! You chose to move there, and that choice included having to go to the grocery store instead of growing your own food. REPENT, I say! REPENT!
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Old 07-08-2008, 01:47 PM
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I think that section is right next to the food court in hell where the gluttons go.
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Old 07-08-2008, 02:19 PM
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The post....as if no other denomination has obese preachers that preach against smoking, the nerve of this poster, shameful, really shameful!
You know, Monkeyperson, you are correct.

Somehow I missed this one, and I agree, uncalled for. Good catch.
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Old 07-08-2008, 04:13 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

Besides, if we weren't allowed to eat retaurant food, where else would we go after church to gossip about everybody?
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Save a veggie, eat a booger.
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Old 07-08-2008, 04:41 PM
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Old 07-08-2008, 04:51 PM
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I absolutely, positively and without reservation, DISAGREE with you, Micheal Phelps!!!!

Smoking is not ONE of the most foolish things a person can do to his or her body....

its THE most foolish thing you can do to your body!

Gums, patches and medicines are only as effective as the smokers willpower is strong! I taught a class one time for people who were trying to break addictive behavior. Actually, it was a program for prison inmates (this was back when people believd in "rehabilitation"). Something like AA, the program had steps to help break the addiction. In the study guide I wrote, "Building a Better YOU", I wrote about the power to change (this was a non-religious group). I wrote: "The Power to Change is your DESIRE to Change". I wrote there are 3 keys to change that are necessary: 1) Knowing we need to change, 2) Knowing how to change, and 3) Desiring to change.The last one (3) requires resolve, determination and, a change of lifestyle. Thats the hardest one for people to get- enough desire to "pay the price"!
I have to disagree with you on this one. I agree smoking is really bad for you. But I think sexual sins are even more damaging in today's society with all the killing diseases that go with it.

I like Sam's post and think there is much merit in what he said.

I do not think smoking is a salvational issue, but I believe the closer you draw to God the less you would want to smoke. I don't think it is pleasing to God for anyone to smoke. JMO
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Old 07-08-2008, 08:03 PM
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So people with eating disorders will go to hell? BTW, overeating is not the only way to be a glutton. I am glad some of y'all aren't going to be my judge.
Just in case some might get the wrong message from her post. Cindy's a twig.
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