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Old 02-26-2008, 02:43 PM
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Is homosexuality a sin? ___No________
Is homosexuality okay, in your opinion? ____Yes______

BTW, I didn't arrive at this conclusion easily. For decades, I believed what I was taught, including that the Bible ("our" Bible) was infallible and inspired, homosexuality was a sin, etc. I succumbed to the "folly of an open mind"! The more I looked, the more I changed my beliefs.
Thank God this was BANNED. MY gracious!!
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Thank God this was BANNED. MY gracious!!
Not banned (yet). Look closer. And pray harder.

But if God wants me banned, I guess His will will be done.
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Thank God this was BANNED. MY gracious!!
It wasn't banned. I deleted it as inappropriate. I guess I banned it. Post # 65.

Timmy replied before I could delete it.
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Re: Do YOU really believe what you were taught?

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I do not agree with Timmy's assertion, however seeing it is an open forum he has the right to believe what he wants to. It is the same right we have.
So please do not be like this be better than that whether you agree or not.
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Old 02-26-2008, 03:29 PM
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Re: Do YOU really believe what you were taught?

I'd post scripture, but according to him, the Bible is fallible.

Makes me wonder how and why he believes the words and commandments of Jesus to be correct as they are written.......
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I firmly believe in the Doctrine of Sanctification.

I firmly believe in Separation from the world.

I think these things are vital to the Christian walk and I believe these teachings are part of the reason, the outpouring of the Holy Ghost was in its earliest stages in the Methodist movement.

I think when Apostolic’s stop teaching these things, they are in serious trouble because I believe that while they deal with the Christian AFTER conversion, they are vital to the Christian walk.

Some things we teach related to Sanctification and Separation are timeless and unchanging and other things need to be dealt with in the context of modernity.

Those things that are timeless need to be treated as such but we do not need to act like it is 1940 either.

I still have great respect for those who’s views are more conservative than my own on the subject.

I fear for those who have jettisoned these doctrines.

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Of course not! Why should it be? OK, if the Bible says it's an abomination to God, the Bible is wrong. The Bible corrected itself (so to speak) on some things, such as mixing fabric types in clothing (or did it?), eating shellfish (I suppose), eating meat offered to idols, animal sacrifice, etc. I think it forgot to correct this one. Either that or left it up to us to fix it ourselves. Times change. There may have been good reason for some laws, in some eras, and if the reasons go away, so should the laws.

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I was hoping this was a joke. Times change. God does not change nor did His WORD change. In both the OT and the NT Homosexuality is a SIN

There was no "correction". The things you are referring too were more ceremonial than moral. God never said to wear mixed fabrics was an abomination
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Through the years I have asked questions and sought out answers through those more knowlegeable than I, through education, and through my own personal studies. Doctrinally, I believe what I was taught in every area of Biblically sound doctrine.

The only thing that I have changed my mind on is the manmade application of "outward dress".

Things have been added to my belief system through the understanding of grace, mercy, and sanctificaiton but it all fits perfectly together in my mind.

What do you, or don't you believe from what you were taught growing up in the church? I am curious as to how many feel alike or differently from myself.

Thank-you for responding.

Blessings, Rhoni
I still believe what I was taught.. only much stronger after personal study than previously.
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Re: Do YOU really believe what you were taught?

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Is homosexuality a sin? ___No________
Is homosexuality okay, in your opinion? ____Yes______

BTW, I didn't arrive at this conclusion easily. For decades, I believed what I was taught, including that the Bible ("our" Bible) was infallible and inspired, homosexuality was a sin, etc. I succumbed to the "folly of an open mind"! The more I looked, the more I changed my beliefs.
So in other words you do not believe in the bible. You believe it is full of mistakes. You arrived at the conclusion that Homosexuality is okay based on something OTHER than the word of God.....
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  2. The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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Re: Do YOU really believe what you were taught?

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I cannot for the life of me see how anyone can't see that the Word of God teaches separation and how to dress. I have read all the post and heard the argument, but it is as clear as it can possible be to me that God require us top dress holy, and live a separated life.
The problem is you expect everyone to agree with YOUR version of separation and how to dress. A LOT of people on here that would disagree with you WOULD in fact agree the bible teaches separation AND that we should dress modestly....
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  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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