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SDG · #**111** 02-25-2008, 01:50 PM

If we were to use the term Classical liberalism, Ferd in it's full meaning we'd all be liberals ...

You may also be confusing Marxist politics and original MARXIAN theory.

CC1 · #**112** 02-25-2008, 02:02 PM

Daniel,

Did you ever answer about why you think Barak Obama has great character?

I can see why you would think he is a great orator (I believe the best in National politics since Ronald Reagan) but am at a loss as to how this great character has been determined by you.

DividedThigh · #**113** 02-25-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1

Daniel,

Did you ever answer about why you think Barak Obama has great character?

I can see why you would think he is a great orator (I believe the best in National politics since Ronald Reagan) but am at a loss as to how this great character has been determined by you.

i would like to hear that answer too, hmmm, dt

SDG · #**114** 02-25-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1

Daniel,

Did you ever answer about why you think Barak Obama has great character?

I can see why you would think he is a great orator (I believe the best in National politics since Ronald Reagan) but am at a loss as to how this great character has been determined by you.

I don't know if I characterized it as GREAT.

Bill Clinton was a better orator.

When left w/ the choice between McKain and Obama ... I'll take the one who has stood by his principles.

ChristopherHall · #**115** 02-25-2008, 02:04 PM

If the Republicans would have ruled well they wouldn’t have anything to fear. Their failure is responsible for Democratic gains.

Ferd · #**116** 02-25-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

If we were to use the term Classical liberalism, Ferd in it's full meaning we'd all be liberals ...

You may also be confusing Marxist politics and original MARXIAN theory.

Pretty much. Yes. that, to an extent is what i am saying.

but you HAVE to understand that to understand the correct acertain that Facism is an extention of conservitivism. which it is, but is is unconnected from Modern American Conservitives.

However, Progressives are only classical Liberals to a certain extent.

and when i used "Marx/Marxism I was speaking of all forms of economic/political models that harken back to Marx.

Ferd · #**117** 02-25-2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

If the Republicans would have ruled well they wouldn’t have anything to fear. Their failure is responsible for Democratic gains.

Additional Rhetoric.....

Ferd · #**118** 02-25-2008, 02:08 PM

Americans dont "rule" we "Govern"

there is a difference.

ChristopherHall · #**119** 02-25-2008, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

Americans dont "rule" we "Govern"

there is a difference.

Americans govern...Republicans "rule".

Ferd · #**120** 02-25-2008, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I don't know if I characterized it as GREAT.

Bill Clinton was a better orator.

When left w/ the choice between McKain and Obama ... I'll take the one who has stood by his principles.

Dan, as a fellow conservitive who like you finds himself without a real choice, I understand what you are saying....

Im not going to join you. I think it is a mistake, but I do understand the sentement.