Do we have to pay tithes? - Page 11

Evang.Benincasa · #**101** 04-19-2018, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

I understand that the Apostle Paul preached the gospel freely (without charge) so that he would not be a burden to the people that he was ministering to. It was not always the case, but it seems to be generally the case.

And I don't believe that the Apostle Paul was preaching tithing. I do believe that he was teaching that the ministry should be supported. Some people jump straight to tithing, as though it's the only way to support the ministry. It is not.

Bro, honestly ten percent seems to be a hang up with you. Bro, if the dude is doing the job of ministering to you and yours, then support him with what you have. It is that simple. But guess what my man, if you need me to tell you this, then honey child keep every single dime you make. Because what you give will have some sort of emotional strings attached. Man, I have known full blown rocked out sinners to help those who have helped them with advise, and caring. Because they felt passionate about their mentor and friend. They understood that what was being bestowed upon them was priceless. Yet, we will debate over helping to support ministry with 10% of a donation? Whatever.

Evang.Benincasa · #**102** 04-19-2018, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

I have heard that some will preach for bacon

n david · #**103** 04-19-2018, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

I have heard that some will preach for bacon

Tithesmeister · #**104** 04-19-2018, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I have never heard a pastor or visiting minister say anything like that.

EB, you have said several times on these tithe threads, that you have never heard of a pastor or a visiting minister say that you will not be saved for not paying your tithe. You feel that we are surely not making it up, but you seem to have your doubts. Seeing (or in this case, hearing) is believing. If you would be so kind as to queue the audio of Brother Riggen, go to 1:21:43 and report back with what Brother Riggen is saying at this point. I'll leave it at that, and we'll wait for your report.

We will put the matter to rest concerning whether or not pastors are preaching that tithing is a salvation issue. Let us know what Brother Riggen says, and whether he whispers it or shouts it from the rooftop. Does he hint about it, or is he pretty strong. Let us know what you think.

Also check 1:22:40.

And at 1:24 he tells of his pastor that advises the ushers to watch the ones who don't put a tithing envelope in the plate, because they will steal from the plate. You just can't make this stuff up.

Evang.Benincasa · #**105** 04-19-2018, 12:36 PM

[QUOTE=Evang.Benincasa;1527652

I'm not saying you all aren't telling a truth, but it does sound like the beard sin issue thing again.[/QUOTE]

What I'm guessing here is that you quoted me, but when you bolded my quote, you over lapped the end of the name title quotation end bracket. Which messed up the quote but bolded the quote. the end bracket looks like this ] if you look at your original in edit it probably looks like this ]] which caused the quote box to break up but still get bolded. Make it a rule to look at you final post through the preview option before hitting the submit reply option.

Tithesmeister · #**106** 04-19-2018, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

What I'm guessing here is that you quoted me, but when you bolded my quote, you over lapped the end of the name title quotation end bracket. Which messed up the quote but bolded the quote. the end bracket looks like this ] if you look at your original in edit it probably looks like this ]] which caused the quote box to break up but still get bolded. Make it a rule to look at you final post through the preview option before hitting the submit reply option.

Thanks. I'll try to do better.

n david · #**107** 04-19-2018, 12:46 PM

"You're not going to be saved if you don't pay your tithe."

Can't be any clearer than that.

Here's irony: He quotes 1 Corinthians 6 and screams multiple times about the "nor thieves," but ignores the "nor extortioners."

Extortion: the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.

He's literally extorting tithes in this message, but it's okay apparently.

So if people who don't pay the 10% tithe are "thieves" who won't make it to heaven, preachers who extort tithes are also not going to heaven, including Rev. Riggen. Of course, he wouldn't agree with that view.

Tithesmeister · #**108** 04-19-2018, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by n david

"You're not going to be saved if you don't pay your tithe."

Can't be any clearer than that.

Here's irony: He quotes 1 Corinthians 6 and screams multiple times about the "nor thieves," but ignores the "nor extortioners."

Extortion: the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.

He's literally extorting tithes in this message, but it's okay apparently.

So if people who don't pay the 10% tithe are "thieves" who won't make it to heaven, preachers who extort tithes are also not going to heaven, including Rev. Riggen. Of course, he wouldn't agree with that view.

True words.

There is plenty more irony where that came from.

Evang.Benincasa · #**109** 04-19-2018, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Thanks. I'll try to do better.

Hey it happens to everyone because we are rushing to post, or reply. No need to rush. Take your time and review what you are trying to post. I guess presentation can go a long way. But those huge paragraphs with colored fonts were killing me. Those who are interested in the topic will read huge long posts because being driven by their interest. But when a post is unreadable it isn't because the reader isn't interested, it is because he can't read it. You are doing a great job.

Evang.Benincasa · #**110** 04-19-2018, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by n david

"You're not going to be saved if you don't pay your tithe."

Can't be any clearer than that.

Here's irony: He quotes 1 Corinthians 6 and screams multiple times about the "nor thieves," but ignores the "nor extortioners."

Extortion: the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.

He's literally extorting tithes in this message, but it's okay apparently.

So if people who don't pay the 10% tithe are "thieves" who won't make it to heaven, preachers who extort tithes are also not going to heaven, including Rev. Riggen. Of course, he wouldn't agree with that view.

Where in the sermon does he say the above?