Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length - Page 11

Aquila · #**101** 07-18-2017, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Disciple4life

I pray that you or your family never need to seek professional help from a psychiatrist. But some people do need professional help.

Too late. Have you read his posts? LOL

Amanah · #**102** 07-18-2017, 09:21 AM

Drug overdoses are now the leading cause of death among Americans under 50.

Although the data is preliminary, the Times’s best estimate is that deaths rose 19 percent over the 52,404 recorded in 2015. And all evidence suggests the problem has continued to worsen in 2017.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...than-ever.html

The State of Ohio filed a lawsuit on Wednesday against the pharmaceutical industry over the opioid epidemic, accusing several drug companies of conducting marketing campaigns that misled doctors and patients about the danger of addiction and overdose.

Defendants in the case include Purdue Pharma, Teva Pharmaceutical Industries, Johnson & Johnson, Endo Pharmaceuticals, Allergan and others.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/31/u...ke-dewine.html

Benzodiazepine
•Doctors may prescribe a benzodiazepine for the following legitimate medical conditions:
• Anxiety
• Insomnia
• Alcohol withdrawal
• Seizure control
• Muscle relaxation
• Inducing amnesia for uncomfortable procedures
• Given before an anesthetic (such as before surgery)
• Benzodiazepines act on the central nervous system, produce sedation and muscle relaxation, and lower anxiety levels.
• Although more than 2,000 different benzodiazepines have been produced, only about 15 are currently FDA-approved in the United States. They are usually classified by how long their effects last.
• Ultra-short acting - Midazolam (Versed), triazolam (Halcion)
• Short-acting - Alprazolam (Xanax), lorazepam (Ativan)
• Long-acting - Chlordiazepoxide (Librium), diazepam (Valium)

• Benzodiazepines are commonly abused. This abuse is partially related to the toxic effects that they produce and also to their widespread availability. They can be chronically abused or, as seen more commonly in hospital emergency departments, intentionally or accidentally taken in overdose. Death and serious illness rarely result from benzodiazepine abuse alone; however, they are frequently taken with either alcohol or other medications. The combination of benzodiazepines and alcohol can be dangerous -- and even lethal.

• Benzodiazepines have also been used as a "date rape" drug because they can markedly impair and even abolish functions that normally allow a person to resist or even want to resist sexual aggression or assault. In recent years, the detection and conviction of people involved in this has increased dramatically. The drug is usually added to alcohol-containing drinks or even soft drinks in powder or liquid forms and can be hard to taste.
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/a...zepine-abuse#1

Jermyn Davidson · #**103** 07-18-2017, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

I'd recommend against using psychotropic medication, but ultimately that is a choice better left up to the individual.

Why?

Aquila · #**104** 07-18-2017, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

Recently there was a testimony from a woman in our church.
She saw the doctor for a medical procedure and he also prescribed Ativan for her.
She didn't realize that it is an anti anxiety drug, and how addictive it is.

When she tried to stop taking it, it sent her life into a tailspin.
When she didn't take it she was anxious and had severe insomnia and she said she felt like she had no control over her life.

She asked her family to pray and fast for her to be delivered, Ativan withdrawal is really nasty, and she felt like she could not do it on her own.

Her daughter went on a three day fast for her, the church prayer for her and God delivered her, psychotropic drugs are very dangerous, and worldly counsel is also very dangerous

Psalm 91King James Version (KJV)
91 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
9 Because thou hast made the Lord, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.
14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.
16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.

I praise God for helping this woman.

I only have a couple questions. You said,

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When she tried to stop taking it, it sent her life into a tailspin.

Did her doctor have her stop taking the medication and assist her with the process? Or did she just decide to stop taking the medication independently?

I know of a similar story, but the individual stopped taking their meds independently, without consulting their doctor. That can be very dangerous with drugs like these. These medications can be so powerful that one must be weaned off of them slowly. And in many cases, it takes using other medications in the process. If someone just stops taking their meds without a doctor's supervision it can lead to serious problems. Sometimes they can alter their brain chemistry permanently leading to potentially more serious problematic symptoms and behaviors. These meds are nothing to play with. If someone chooses to take them, one should keep to the strict parameters of the medicine therapy and dosages prescribed. One should never just quit taking their meds. They should consult their doctor and allow the doctor to guide them on how to properly get off the medication.

That's why I suggest that one not use these medications. But ultimately it's up to the individual.

Aquila · #**105** 07-18-2017, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

Psalm 1:1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
6 For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

I love that Psalm. It's jam packed with truth.

Are all psychiatrists/psychologists/counselors ungodly?

I know child a psychologist that is Apostolic. I know that there are many counselors that are professional pastoral counselors from nearly every denomination. There are entire ministries out there comprised of clinically trained Christian psychologists and psychiatrists.

Amanah · #**106** 07-18-2017, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

I praise God for helping this woman.

I only have a couple questions. You said,

Did her doctor have her stop taking the medication and assist her with the process? Or did she just decide to stop taking the medication independently?

I know of a similar story, but the individual stopped taking their meds independently, without consulting their doctor. That can be very dangerous with drugs like these. These medications can be so powerful that one must be weaned off of them slowly. And in many cases, it takes using other medications in the process. If someone just stops taking their meds without a doctor's supervision it can lead to serious problems. Sometimes they can alter their brain chemistry permanently leading to potentially more serious problematic symptoms and behaviors. These meds are nothing to play with. If someone chooses to take them, one should keep to the strict parameters of the medicine therapy and dosages prescribed. One should never just quit taking their meds. They should consult their doctor and allow the doctor to guide them on how to properly get off the medication.

That's why I suggest that one not use these medications. But ultimately it's up to the individual.

the doctors who prescribe the meds don't realize how addictive they are and how hard it is to stop taking them. They are allowed to prescribe them, but if you have a problem getting off them, they can't help you. Your only choice is to gradually wean, or go to rehab.

n david · #**107** 07-18-2017, 09:35 AM

Years ago, I met and knew a Pastor who secretly battled depression. I did not know him well, but saw and greeted him at various conferences and events. He was on medication for depression when he shot and killed himself.

Aquila · #**108** 07-18-2017, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Disciple4life

A person can trust in Jesus with every fiber of his being and also mentally understand that using modern medicine when the time is appropriate.

Nowhere in the Bible does it say if you get saved you can no longer use medicine.

Wasn't Luke a physician. I guess Paul won't make Heaven either. Oh well!

Paul even recommended that Timothy use a little wine (a drug) to sooth his stomach's sake and his frequent maladies.

1 Timothy 5:23
Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

I guess Timothy wasn't saved.

Amanah · #**109** 07-18-2017, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

I love that Psalm. It's jam packed with truth.

Are all psychiatrists/psychologists/counselors ungodly?

I know child a psychologist that is Apostolic. I know that there are many counselors that are professional pastoral counselors from nearly every denomination. There are entire ministries out there comprised of clinically trained Christian psychologists and psychiatrists.

If their training and belief system is based on Freud and Jung, they are ungodly.