So what's up Sarah's sleevies?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Palin screws up, but it is somebody else's fault for pointing that out.

Or is actually that she didn't mess up after all and what I was taught about Revere's ride is wrong and her rendition is the historically correct version.


Either way, sarah is the victim... again.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

http://news.yahoo.com/s/washpost/abu...cchiosforpalin

So your disdain for her is b/c she, unlike other political figures (tic), refers to statistics that are disputable? I could understand if she held office or had a shot at the White House, but she is neither. And the contrast to not only the statements but the abysmal leadership of this administration has you defending them is perplexing. If Sarah grates your nerves---BO outta put you in a padded room!

It's not rational to me, knowing you to be a rational guy.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by n david

Dear Sarah Palin,
Perhaps before going on your "One Nation" tour of historical sites about the nation's founding, you should make sure you actually know the history. (ie Paul Revere's Midnight Ride, where you erroneously state that Paul was warning the BRITISH!?! Really Sarah, the British? Wait, I'm sure the lame stream media is to blame for this somehow right?)

Sincerely,
I can see Mexico from my patio

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Good grief. And people want her to be the next President of the US?

Its all pure hypocrisy. She messed up, that doesn't make her unintelligent! Barak Obama talked about 57 states, signed a document a month ago and dated it "2008", he says the way to get out of debt is to borrow more money, he says we need to find alternative sources of energy yet commits to Brazil that we will buy their oil, he states that Israel must return to its 1967 borders even though anyone w a working knowledge of military strategy understands that defending a 9-mile wide sliver of territory against 40 to 1 odds is indefensible, he needs a teleprompter to speak at almost every occasion, he spoke before a Chrysler plant in Toledo recently and said that the road to economic recovery was a path so arduous that even a Jeep Wrangler couldn’t get through it---to people who make the Jeep Wrangler! (even these union workers booed him), and the list goes on and on.

So you BO Kool-aiders rail on SP for every misstep, and she doesn't control anything! She's just a high profile American with a following and an opinion. Nothing she says or does can affect the economy, make the stock market rise or fall, increase my taxes, change a single thing about my daily life. But the MESSIAH---BO---can fail and fumble and misspeak and be wrong and yall blindly defend him like he's the next bust to added to Mt Rushmore!

Sarah gives you all plenty to laugh about---but BO has us crying just about every day!

Good grief---and some of you actually voted for this guy to be President of the US and will again in 2012?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

So your disdain for her is b/c she, unlike other political figures (tic), refers to statistics that are disputable? I could understand if she held office or had a shot at the White House, but she is neither. And the contrast to not only the statements but the abysmal leadership of this administration has you defending them is perplexing. If Sarah grates your nerves---BO outta put you in a padded room!

It's not rational to me, knowing you to be a rational guy.

Deacon Blues,

You act as if there's just one thing that I don't like Palin for.

The bottom line is that she struck such a NEGATIVE chord in me-- and not just this conservative, but others as well-- she struck such a negative chord in me that until she changes my perception of her, my perception of her will ALWAYS be negative.

Her Revere rambling just furthered cemented that she can't be taken seriously-- making her an embarassment for me whenever she rears her little head.

The difference between my disdain for sarah and others for Obama is that MOST people act as if Obama has done nothing good for the country-- with many instigating and believing all sorts of blatant lies about the man and his m.o.

Their criticisms are often tinged with stuff other than good notions, but thinly veiled to appear as something that they're not-- objective.



If my disdain for Palin is so irrational, why is she so unelectable?

Or do you believe she is unelectable?


If she isn't unelectable, why is she unelectable?
How did she become unelectable?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Deacon,

sarah IS a walking mess up.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by sandie

You might be interested to learn that once again Palin leaves egg on the faces of her critics, odd what some research will show:

http://www.masshist.org/database/img...pc=&pid=#page1


I observed a Wood at a Small distance, & made for that. When I got there, out Started Six officers, on Horse back,and orderd me to dismount;-one of them, who appeared to have the command, examined me, where I came from,& what my Name Was? I told him. it was Revere, he asked if it was Paul? I told him yes He asked me if I was an express? I answered in the afirmative. He demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and aded, that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that There would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up. He imediately rode towards those who stoppd us, when all five of them came down upon a full gallop; one of them, whom I afterwards found to be Major Mitchel, of the 5th Regiment, Clapped his pistol to my head, called me by name, & told me he was going to ask me some questions, & if I did not give him true answers, he would blow my brains out. He then asked me similar questions to those above. He then orderd me to mount my Horse, after searching me for arms.He then orderd them to advance, & to lead me in front. When we got to the Road, they
turned down towards Lexington. When we had got about one Mile, the Major Rode up to the officer that was leading me, & told him to give me to the Sergeant. As soon as he took me, the Major orderd him, if I attempted to run, or any body insulted them, to blow my brains out. We rode till we got near Lexington Meeting-house, when the Militia fired a Voley of Guns, which appeared to alarm them very much.

Sandie---that is awesome! Hahaha! Some of the BO defenders here are case in point why we get a man like BO elected to the most inmportant seat of power in the world! They let the media elite and public school textbooks do the educating and informing for them! If its on the network news---its fact. NY Times? Truth. CNN, MSNBC? Unbiased reporting. The media has turned SP into a caraciture and too many Americans blindly accept it as fact.

I know this, she may not have the IQ of our Genius-in-Chief, but she would lead America waaaayyyy better than Einstein has! In fact, Homer Simpson could do a better job!

[canam]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Deacon Blues,

You act as if there's just one thing that I don't like Palin for.

The bottom line is that she struck such a NEGATIVE chord in me-- and not just this conservative, but others as well-- she struck such a negative chord in me that until she changes my perception of her, my perception of her will ALWAYS be negative.

Her Revere rambling just furthered cemented that she can't be taken seriously-- making her an embarassment for me whenever she rears her little head.

The difference between my disdain for sarah and others for Obama is that MOST people act as if Obama has done nothing good for the country-- with many instigating and believing all sorts of blatant lies about the man and his m.o.

Their criticisms are often tinged with stuff other than good notions, but thinly veiled to appear as something that they're not-- objective.



If my disdain for Palin is so irrational, why is she so unelectable?

Or do you believe she is unelectable?


If she isn't unelectable, why is she unelectable?
How did she become unelectable?

JD he hasnt done ONE good thing for this country !!!! And she is only unelectable to people who are obama apologists like you !!!!

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Deacon Blues,

You act as if there's just one thing that I don't like Palin for.

The bottom line is that she struck such a NEGATIVE chord in me-- and not just this conservative, but others as well-- she struck such a negative chord in me that until she changes my perception of her, my perception of her will ALWAYS be negative.

Her Revere rambling just furthered cemented that she can't be taken seriously-- making her an embarassment for me whenever she rears her little head.

The difference between my disdain for sarah and others for Obama is that MOST people act as if Obama has done nothing good for the country-- with many instigating and believing all sorts of blatant lies about the man and his m.o.

Their criticisms are often tinged with stuff other than good notions, but thinly veiled to appear as something that they're not-- objective.



If my disdain for Palin is so irrational, why is she so unelectable?

Or do you believe she is unelectable?


If she isn't unelectable, why is she unelectable?
How did she become unelectable?

She's electable, she's already proven that on several occasions. I think b/c of the perception that she is a lightweight she wouldn't be able to beat BO in 2012.

Perception is almost everything in presidential politics. Some of it has been of her own doing, a lot of that a result of not being a part of the Northeastern, Ivy League, NY City, DC beltway. She is a rural gal from the frontier and her folksy talk and style fits into a media culture that only says one thing: DUMB HICK. The fact she is a conservative, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-domestic oil drilling, etc. The fact that as a Christian she had a daughter have a baby outside of marriage, the fact that she doesn't appeal to the NYTimes or Time magazine as her sources for news, the fact she took on the political establishment in both parties in her state and cleaned uo Juneau, it all adds up to the elitists in both parties as "she's not one of us---she's unworthy to be our president".

The MSM and liberals use one of two tactics when trying to destroy a conservative contender. He/she is a moron (Palin, George W, George H W, Reagan, Ford) or he/she is pure evil (Cheney, Gingrich, Nixon). Consequently, Democrat contenders are admirable, inspirational and always, always genuises. Carter was touted for his high IQ and his clean, farmer image. Mondale and Dukakis were men of great ideals and societal progress. Clinton was the man who felt our pain and was handsome and charming. Gore was the brainiac who although was a bit stiff, championed the cause of global warming, and won the Nobel Peace Prize as a result. Kerry was the Vietnam War hero who came home and stood up to the establishment and helped bring the Vietnam War to an end. John Edwards was the dashing North Carolina Southern gentleman lawyer who would help create "one America" and bring an end to the "two Americas" of rich/poor. And then of course Barack Obama. People packed that stadium in Denver and he walked out on stage and talked about the ocean level returning back to their mormal levels and the earth becoming cleaner and how that we could have hope at last and media folks were choking back tears and getting all giddy and tingly. Why he was given a Nobel Peace Prize before he had even finished his first year as President! He was so intelligent and inspirational he was given the award preemptively!

So you see JD a lot of this fits a pattern. The left and MSM are savvy when it comes to politics and the cult of personality. They understand that perception is almost everything. They understand a significant number of Americans will vote in image alone. When was the last time you saw a Democrat contender for Prez get "gotcha" questions like "Who's the president of Khazakstan?" or "So what newspapers do you read?" No, its always assumed they are super smart people that are from higher institutions of learning and its a given they know all these things and read all the same things the Manhattan and Upper West Side of NYC folks read. And when one of their own says something like "57 States" or signs a guest book at Buckingham Palace "24 May, 2008" in 2011 it gets little attention, they laugh it off and they move on. The story dies within days.

As far as the "real" reason people oppose BO, I think you are right about some folks. There will always be racists among us and that is sad. But many, many white conservatives oppose BO because he's as liberal as they come. I voted for Alan Keyes on two occasions in GOP primaries in the past. I am a huge fan of Clarence Thomas. I would love to see Condi Rice run for Prez. Herman Cain is in the top 2-3 choices for me as a GOP contender. I can go on and on. And honestly, I think it appears that you as a GOP voter and admitted conservative defending BO most of the time is rooted only in the fact he has African American blood in his veins, because most of what he stands for is extremely liberal.

I get the criticisms of SP. She's not untouchable. She doesn't help herself when she kind of panics and rambles and says things that her critics can pounce on. But she is inconsequential in the big scheme of things. Yet the MSM and liberals treat her like she is the biggest threat to Western Civilization since Attila the Hun. This Paul Revere thing will last all summer. Just watch.

[GISG]

Originally Posted by n david

You know, Palin isn't just a private citizen. She's a public figure, an unfortunate political celebrity, who does everything possible to get in the news and spotlight. The bus tour which she claims to be just a family thing learning about the founding of the nation ... it's a show. A spectacle. She gives national interviews on FoxNews criticizing anyone and everyone -- please. She's not just a private citizen. She said Revere rang the bells to warn the British....that's not true. Is it a huge mistake to make, not at all. Just admit the mistake and move on. Don't be Anthony Weiner and try to be cute with the cameras and obfuscate the truth. Stop making Palin out to be some poor little lady who's just some innocent victim. It's not the worst ever against a conservative politician. She started her fame as a VP nominee attacking the media and BO right off. If she can't take some heat, she doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the Oval Office. This from someone who claimed no law could stop Bill Clinton from running for President again ... You know, maybe you can help run Palin's campaign when she decides to barge into the race. [Though if she stays towards the bottom of Republican polls, as she has been, I doubt she'll run. She'll only jump in if she's in the top two or three of Republican candidates.]

No, she's a private citizen, (having a job doesn't equate to holding a public office), your spin makes her something else. The media hound her, but go ahead spin that too.
I'm not making her out to be a victim....how funny, you are doing the exact same thing the media and all those who fear her do...you're giving her time and space, you're keeping her in the forefront.
I love it....she's no victim, she just knows how to play the media and all others that hate her, like a fiddle!
You go girl!

[Jermyn Davidson]

I defend BO on here much more than I do in real life because often the criticisms levelled at him are not balanced-- in real life and on AFF.


Not only am I not voting for Obama, a good chunk of my family are not voting for him either.

However, if conservatives want to motivate the black voters who would vote for him just because he's black, let them continue to level unbalanced, irrational criticisms at him.


Trump's birther bid, 3 years after the fact, was enough to motivate MANY people to vote for Obama if for no other reason than out of protest to GOP (aka rich white folks) tactics.

Then Trump's calling for Obama's academic records to be released proved to many, many people what some have suspected all along-- the attacks of Trump and others are not based on good motives. Thinly veiled attacks veiled as something good, but many are not deceived.

Letterman implied racism-- I don't know if that was the case for Trump or not. However, it is clear that he wasn't objective or respectful.