Shock! PAW having Baptist Preacher as a guest SPeaker!!!

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by chseeads

I'm doing alright I guess.

Married yet?????????????????????

[chseeads]

Hahaha.....that's scheduled to happen shortly after pigs fly.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Thad

so you think they are going to win them to the PAW or change their doctrine ??
some say that jake's influence has changed some of the Big names

Yeah I think that Jakes' has influenced some Big names. I do not think that the PAW is changing the doctrine. I think that there is a place in the community of the church that we can fellowship together. Not waffle on doctrine, but we do not have to debate the doctrine everytime we are around non-oneness people.

Back to Jakes, I believe that there are people that have seen his success outside of a major organization. He is a part of a oneness organization called Higher Grounds something. But what most people have seen is that there is an anointing and blessing outside oganizations. Not that you can not have success in organizations, but you are dead in the water if you leave. Because people see him on TBN and other they assume that he is no longer "preaching truth." That is false. I have many of his dvd series and he is right on with what he preaches.

We will see what the future holds for different organizations. I think that there will be a great revival as promised in the Word. I believe that this will happen in and out of an organization. There are alot of people out there that may not choose a church in an organization with strict standards so those people might go to the ones that have left, but some will not. God will make a market for both streams.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Yeah I think that Jakes' has influenced some Big names. I do not think that the PAW is changing the doctrine. I think that there is a place in the community of the church that we can fellowship together. Not waffle on doctrine, but we do not have to debate the doctrine everytime we are around non-oneness people.

Back to Jakes, I believe that there are people that have seen his success outside of a major organization. He is a part of a oneness organization called Higher Grounds something. But what most people have seen is that there is an anointing and blessing outside oganizations. Not that you can not have success in organizations, but you are dead in the water if you leave. Because people see him on TBN and other they assume that he is no longer "preaching truth." That is false. I have many of his dvd series and he is right on with what he preaches.

We will see what the future holds for different organizations. I think that there will be a great revival as promised in the Word. I believe that this will happen in and out of an organization. There are alot of people out there that may not choose a church in an organization with strict standards so those people might go to the ones that have left, but some will not. God will make a market for both streams.

PHOOEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[OGIA]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

PHOOEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was thinking of a response to ol' JT, elder, but your's just takes the cake!!

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

PHOOEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phooey on youie!!!!!!!!!!

How is that Phooey? Look at people that go to the churches outside the organizations. They are in revival too and people are changing their lives and changing the world. I see it first had as I have been in a church that left the UPC and have a great revival with the HG moving. Still preaching Acts 2:38 and changing lives. go figure.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Phooey on youie!!!!!!!!!!

How is that Phooey? Look at people that go to the churches outside the organizations. They are in revival too and people are changing their lives and changing the world. I see it first had as I have been in a church that left the UPC and have a great revival with the HG moving. Still preaching Acts 2:38 and changing lives. go figure.

I think you mistake talent for annointing. Jakes is NOT annointed to compromize and this is NOT about organizations but truth. The UPC or PAW is NOT the church. If numbers prove you are right head to Mecca!!!!!!!!!! I hear they are having some blow up services over there.

[Brother Price]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Yeah I think that Jakes' has influenced some Big names. I do not think that the PAW is changing the doctrine. I think that there is a place in the community of the church that we can fellowship together. Not waffle on doctrine, but we do not have to debate the doctrine everytime we are around non-oneness people.

Back to Jakes, I believe that there are people that have seen his success outside of a major organization. He is a part of a oneness organization called Higher Grounds something. But what most people have seen is that there is an anointing and blessing outside oganizations. Not that you can not have success in organizations, but you are dead in the water if you leave. Because people see him on TBN and other they assume that he is no longer "preaching truth." That is false. I have many of his dvd series and he is right on with what he preaches.

We will see what the future holds for different organizations. I think that there will be a great revival as promised in the Word. I believe that this will happen in and out of an organization. There are alot of people out there that may not choose a church in an organization with strict standards so those people might go to the ones that have left, but some will not. God will make a market for both streams.

In the words of another great man of God I know.....

HOGWASH!!!

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Brother Price

In the words of another great man of God I know.....

HOGWASH!!!

Mega Dittos a quote from the golden microphone.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Brother Price

In the words of another great man of God I know.....

HOGWASH!!!

You guys are just jealous it seems. I mean come on. You think that someone is compromising. That is your thoughts based on you think. I see differently. Look I have seen it from both sides of the fence. I have no problems with you believing what you do. I would never tell you that you do not believe truth even though I do not agree with you. You all see that when people go to these church because God draws them and when they were deep in an organization the church was not as large then you chalk it up to compromising. You all are in the shallow end of the pool here. The church I am attending now has no TV or radio programs and they are running in the area of 650. Who would not want that? You all get too caught up in the dress code UPCI preaches and not enough of the revival the Bible talks about.

If you all think that the great revival in the last days are only going to happen to the oneness churches that preach things so tight you can not breath air then you are sadly sadly mistaken. Sometime the grass is not greener on the other side, but you know what sometimes it is. It is the same grass but this yard is not fenced in. Now I do not agree with living like you want to, drinking partying, etc. But if you are having a real prayer life and not just a patty-cake prayer time then God is going to speak. I would rather hear God speak to me than to listen to some people that all they want is to control people.