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Old 07-08-2008, 05:52 PM
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I fear this doctrine more than anything in my lifetime.
even more than you fear me?
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I fear this doctrine more than anything in my lifetime.
Really? That's a strong statement. Why?
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Problem is ... Ferd ... is that we've only equated smoking and drinking to be fleshly not .... religious man-made rituals seeking merited favor also
Dan, we approach this from very different views. I still hold firm to the doctrines of sanctification as taught by the church that birthed me. I still find something deep and valuable in 1 Cor. 11 related to spicifically what we understand is a teaching about hair (and not just the rolls of men and women).

I know you dont agree with me on these points. But I will never abandon what I understand to be sound doctrine.
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PRIDE goeth before a fall.


I fear this doctrine more than anything in my lifetime.
If I were still in UPC, I would feel exactly the same way.
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These fads come and go give it some time and no one will remember it. Like the oil in the hands and other teachings of foolishness.
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even more than you fear me?
You aint nuthing bub. I fear no man and only 2 women. My mom and my wife!
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These fads come and go give it some time and no one will remember it. Like the oil in the hands and other teachings of foolishness.
I would agree if this particular fad was espoused by a handfull of pastors and evangelists. But in the UPCI, it seems that the managment isnt exactly bending over backwards to distance themselves from it.
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You aint nuthing bub. I fear no man and only 2 women. My mom and my wife!
Well said! Although my mother is not alive...I still fear two....my wife and my daughter . I can not say no to either. I am in trouble
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I would agree if this particular fad was espoused by a handfull of pastors and evangelists. But in the UPCI, it seems that the managment isnt exactly bending over backwards to distance themselves from it.
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I would agree if this particular fad was espoused by a handfull of pastors and evangelists. But in the UPCI, it seems that the managment isnt exactly bending over backwards to distance themselves from it.
I agree it seems that whether some agree with it or not they ignore it at best cause the teaching is rooted in the uncut hair thing.
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