CeCe Winans under fire for singing at Gay church

[Sandra]

http://www.cecewinans.com/index.php?content=tour

I don't see it on her scheldule.... I will be talking to her tomorrow ,I will find out.

[simplyme]

I just wonder if CeCe has an agent, AND if so, does her agent book gigs for her, and is she obligated to 'work' whatever is scheduled by this agent?
Maybe she has no choice. *shrug* as in contractual obligation(s).

Whatever the reason, I sense that the majority agree that this action is not in the best interest of calling sinners to repentance, as these mbrs of this alleged christian church have decided that GOD is okay(?) with their deviant sexual relationships, they don't see that they need repentance. The Bible I read says that this kind of deviance is against GOD's WORD!
Now, these homosexuals have fooled themselves into thinkin that they are as entitled as any other "church"(as if) to have BIGname christian gospel artists [never mind just CeCe] come and sing to them lovely songs of worship to the KING of KINGS [as affirmation] whose WORD they have thrown by the wayside by not obeying it! Hmmmm..kind of backwards stinkin thinkin, ain't it. There was a time I was lost and living in sin and KNEW that there was no way that I could call myself a christian and live like that., its common sense already.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by simplyme

I just wonder if CeCe has an agent, AND if so, does her agent book gigs for her, and is she obligated to 'work' whatever is scheduled by this agent?
Maybe she has no choice. *shrug* as in contractual obligation(s).

Whatever the reason, I sense that the majority agree that this action is not in the best interest of calling sinners to repentance, as these mbrs of this alleged christian church have decided that GOD is okay(?) with their deviant sexual relationships, they don't see that they need repentance. The Bible I read says that this kind of deviance is against GOD's WORD!
Now, these homosexuals have fooled themselves into thinkin that they are as entitled as any other "church"(as if) to have BIGname christian gospel artists [never mind just CeCe] come and sing to them lovely songs of worship to the KING of KINGS [as affirmation] whose WORD they have thrown by the wayside by not obeying it! Hmmmm..kind of backwards stinkin thinkin, ain't it. There was a time I was lost and living in sin and KNEW that there was no way that I could call myself a christian and live like that., its common sense already.

I believe CeCe does her bookings "inhouse". Of course, to me this is no different that quite a lot of you that have been proclaiming how much Holy Ghost you felt when listening to Lanny Wolfe.

[tv1a]

This is a condenscending question. I don't believe it's intentional, but condenscending nevertheless. I don't read anywhere in scripture where one has to tell a bunch of homosexuals they are going to hell in a handbasket. Maybe conviction will fall in the place without one word spoken. The Holy Ghost has a way of penetrating in ways spoken words from a mere mortal could never fathom.

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Havn't read past the first page. My one and only question is, will CC preach the gospel to them and call them to repentance?

If not, then she will, as some have stated, just leave them feeling affirmed in their sinful lifestyle. The TRUE HOLY GHOST ALWAYS reproves sin. If sin is not reproved, then the Gospel Light did not shine into the darkness of the peoples hearts.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by chosenbyone

First let me mention that I have appreciated your sincerity on this thread. I would agree that our society has been too leniant on sin, which only robbed people from experiencing true freedom in Christ Jesus. With that said, I don't feel like we should be apprehensive with evangelizing the gay/lesbian community by showing them the love of Christ. A person would not be considered a bigot or labled intolerant if they approached the sinner with love and wisdom. What examples of grace could the homosexual be afforded when they have been shown disgust, hatred and fear?

The reason why there haven't been more homosexuals saved and delivered in our churches was because people have been unable or unwilling to rise above their own prejudices against them. We have countless examples of drunkards, drug addicts, thieves, prostitutes and so on that were delivered and restored because those sins didn't have the stigma associated with homosexuality.

Well said, chosenby one! Well said! The church I attend has seven men who have been saved from the homosexual lifestyles, they are all seven living in accountability to pastor or other elders. Pastor has just completed a book, which is their stories. God is great and still at work in His creation.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Havn't read past the first page. My one and only question is, will CC preach the gospel to them and call them to repentance?

If not, then she will, as some have stated, just leave them feeling affirmed in their sinful lifestyle. The TRUE HOLY GHOST ALWAYS reproves sin. If sin is not reproved, then the Gospel Light did not shine into the darkness of the peoples hearts.

Originally Posted by tv1a

This is a condenscending question. I don't believe it's intentional, but condenscending nevertheless. I don't read anywhere in scripture where one has to tell a bunch of homosexuals they are going to hell in a handbasket. Maybe conviction will fall in the place without one word spoken. The Holy Ghost has a way of penetrating in ways spoken words from a mere mortal could never fathom.

So they can be saved outside of hearing the gospel?? My bible says that "faith comes by hearing", and goes on to ask the question "How can they hear without a preacher?". If there will be any saved, it will be because they "heard" the gospel, believed it, and obeyed it.

[lovinglife]

you sure she wasnt singing at one of her brothers churches...jk....

[tv1a]

Your assumption is that the homosexual hasn't heard the truth. If we are going to start naming the sins that will sin people to hell, start with the favorite sin of the church, gluttony. Fat people with little self control over the fork (which constitutes a good chunk of the pentecostal constituent) are going to fry just as much as the homosexual who can't say no to joe. Maybe Cece Winans should stop going to churches with fat people. Maybe she should preach against gluttony. If recent studies are any indication, there are more chubbies than homosexuals.

Originally Posted by stmatthew

So they can be saved outside of hearing the gospel?? My bible says that "faith comes by hearing", and goes on to ask the question "How can they hear without a preacher?". If there will be any saved, it will be because they "heard" the gospel, believed it, and obeyed it.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Your assumption is that the homosexual hasn't heard the truth. If we are going to start naming the sins that will sin people to hell, start with the favorite sin of the church, gluttony. Fat people with little self control over the fork (which constitutes a good chunk of the pentecostal constituent) are going to fry just as much as the homosexual who can't say no to joe. Maybe Cece Winans should stop going to churches with fat people. Maybe she should preach against gluttony. If recent studies are any indication, there are more chubbies than homosexuals.

Obviously, they have not heard with ears of faith, or they would have believed and repented of their evil ways.

You do understand that in your effort to discredit you seem to be defending the homosexual lifestyle.

I did not insinuate that she should not go to the homo church, but that if all she does is go and sing them happy, then she has done a disservice to them.

[tv1a]

I'm not defending homosexuality. I'm exposing the misplaced priority of acceptable sins.

There is no more diservice in ministering in a homosexual church than in a nursing home.

Jesus used the same concept when he went to the Gaderenes. A jew wasn't even to be in the vicinity of the biblical Bay of Pigs, yet he went into the belly of abomination. He didn't berate all pig farmers are going to hell. Repent ye hog callers or fire from heaven wil fall on you. He just went there, did his thing, then left. This could be the case where Cece Winans would minister to at least one person. If that makes me pro homo, so be it. I've been accused worse.

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Obviously, they have not heard with ears of faith, or they would have believed and repented of their evil ways.

You do understand that in your effort to discredit you seem to be defending the homosexual lifestyle.

I did not insinuate that she should not go to the homo church, but that if all she does is go and sing them happy, then she has done a disservice to them.