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Re: If You Are A Disciple
Of course not. It does not conclude with the birth of Christ. It concludes with Satan attempting to destroy the promise of the fathers regarding national Israel. .
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Re: If You Are A Disciple
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Of course not. It does not conclude with the birth of Christ. It concludes with Satan attempting to destroy the promise of the fathers regarding national Israel. .
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Perhaps you get out of it what you want to get out of it.
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Re: If You Are A Disciple
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Perhaps you get out of it what you want to get out of it.
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Re: If You Are A Disciple
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Rev 12:17.
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Re: If You Are A Disciple
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Thats pretty clear cut. Cant deny Christ while keeping His testimony....
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Re: If You Are A Disciple
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Jews, not Mary, not the church....The woman is Israel.
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10-19-2021, 07:13 AM
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Re: If You Are A Disciple
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17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Jews, not Mary, not the church....The woman is Israel.
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Israel has the "testimony of Jesus Christ"? How do you reconcile that with Israel rejecting the Messiah?
And of those who do have the "testimony of Jesus Christ", the Bible describes the following:
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There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
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Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
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Sometimes hidden dangers spring on us suddenly. Those are out of our control. But when one can see the danger, and then refuses to arrest , all in the name of "God is in control", they are forfeiting God given, preventive opportunities.
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Re: If You Are A Disciple
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Israel has the "testimony of Jesus Christ"? How do you reconcile that with Israel rejecting the Messiah?
And of those who do have the "testimony of Jesus Christ", the Bible describes the following:
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My understanding is that the testimony of Jesus Christ is the seed (descendants), not the woman. Anyways, the woman here is godly Israel, before Christ was born, and during his life on earth. Not all Israel rejected Christ during his ministry. That godly Israel became the Church after Pentecost, and Gentiles joined them.
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Re: If You Are A Disciple
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Israel has the "testimony of Jesus Christ"? How do you reconcile that with Israel rejecting the Messiah?
And of those who do have the "testimony of Jesus Christ", the Bible describes the following:
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Jews of Israel will believe the gospel as they are in the midst of the great tribulation. Many events will transpire before chapter 12, including the 144,000 Jews preaching to them. Where is your faith?
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10-19-2021, 06:44 PM
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Re: If You Are A Disciple
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Jews of Israel will believe the gospel as they are in the midst of the great tribulation. Many events will transpire before chapter 12, including the 144,000 Jews preaching to them. Where is your faith?
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Which is it?
First, it's "many" in Israel shall fall and rise per Simeon the Prophet. Then it's "all Israel" shall be saved according to Jeremiah and Paul. Now it's just "Jews" in Israel per I'm not Sean, I'm Rene.
You are all over the map, contradicting yourself as you go along.
Did you watch the video I posted, which goes into specific, astronomical detail about the stellar cartography at the birth of the Messiah, with the constellation Virgo, the "Virgin" at the center of it all?
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