Tithing…Is it a command?

[shag]

Please don't close the thread, Prax.


Men, let brotherly love continue for one another, ok?

Let's stay with it and strive to ultimately resolve this.

Building up one another instead of tearing down one another thru a difference of opinion, I believe is what Christ desires(requires?) of us.



Traditional,
Please start using bible when you post on this thread. It would bring much more to the resolve.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by shag

Please don't close the thread, Prax.


Men, let brotherly love continue for one another, ok?

Let's stay with it and strive to ultimately resolve this.

Building up one another instead of tearing down one another thru a difference of opinion, I believe is what Christ desires(requires?) of us.



Traditional,
Please start using bible when you post on this thread. It would bring much more to the resolve.

I agree. But please remember that many tithe teachers say that those who do not give 10% of their gross income are robbing God, thieves. How does one "agree to disagree" with or have brotherly love for someone they say will not enter the Kingdom of heaven? Yes, they might love us, but how can they love as as brothers in Christ?

I'd like some clarification on this point, please.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Originalist

I agree. But please remember that many tithe teachers say that those who do not give 10% of their gross income are robbing God, thieves. How does one "agree to disagree" with or have brotherly love for someone they say will not enter the Kingdom of heaven? Yes, they might love us, but how can they love as as brothers in Christ?

I'd like some clarification on this point, please.

I agree. But please remember that many of you say that those who teach the tithe are robbing God's people, greedy thieves. How does one "agree to disagree" with or have brotherly love for someone when some of you say that we will not enter the Kingdom of heaven? and even pray to God to kill us. Yes, you might love us, but how can you love as brothers in Christ?

I'd like some clarification on this point, please.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

I agree. But please remember that many of you say that those who teach the tithe are robbing God's people, greedy thieves. How does one "agree to disagree" with or have brotherly love for someone when some of you say that we will not enter the Kingdom of heaven? and even pray to God to kill us. Yes, you might love us, but how can you love as brothers in Christ?

I'd like some clarification on this point, please.

Well, I never threatened to kill anyone. So your point is not relevant. Nor have i said all who teach tithes are robbing God's people. I guess it all depends on which "version' of the tithe theory one teaches.

For me I see this as an area Christians can agree to disagree on and still be brothers.

How do you feel, Flaming?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Originalist

I agree. But please remember that many tithe teachers say that those who do not give 10% of their gross income are robbing God, thieves. How does one "agree to disagree" with or have brotherly love for someone they say will not enter the Kingdom of heaven? Yes, they might love us, but how can they love as as brothers in Christ?

I'd like some clarification on this point, please.

People have a right to their opinion. Its HOW you present your opinion that is in the spirit of love or not

[Sean]

I would like to clarify what I have said in a past thread. I have been praying, for the sake of the saints and the lost world of almost 7 billion souls, that the Lord would END the doctrine of forced giving(tithing), "whatever it takes".......All of you have seen me openly express my point of view on AFF. I have no personal vendetta against any particular individual at all. However, I believe the Lord does.


I have seen the Lords' work on these men in my sphere of influence consistently.
I am just giving a warning in love, that the Lord will start with a rod of chastisement, and eventually "step up" the punishments needed to stop this false teaching that has victimized the saints and the world for centuries.

In my point of view, men that teach many various false doctrines have "hijacked" Acts 2:38 to assimilate as the "true church". They are no different than any other faith that call themselves Christian.
I reiterate. Paul said about the Judaizers that were born again the Acts 2 way(just like us), that they were...

CURSED.... Gal 5:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.



That they were WITCHES....3 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?


That they would be "CUT OFF".....12 I would they were even cut off which trouble you.





I just see things through these glasses in my walk with the Lord these days.

I really do not believe that false teachers will be saved.

I believe we must fix our beliefs right here and now on earth(whatever they may be) and repent of our "unapproachable" beliefs.

I have completely opened my beliefs on AFF to be scrutinized by others to SAVE MYSELF.

I dont believe that our Apostolic forefathers(modern day) are all in heaven. Many of them may have been rejected in eternity by our Lord for teaching particular heresies to the saints and the visitors.

We make "legends" out of them, but trust me...the Lord does not.

Jesus said this to ALL of us(including me)....Matt 12:37...For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

I dont know what everyone else thinks about this, but I dont want to be CONDEMNED.

It looks like to me, if I teach false doctrine, I am just a blind guide that is doing the work of the enemy, planting weeds in the field of the Lord.

Let me reason with the reader here.... Are you willing to abandon ANY doctrine you hold dear if it can be scripturally proven wrong? Believe it or not, I am willing. I want to go to heaven when I die, dont you?

Then lets debate our doctrines rigorously, with an open mind. Ready to abandon the ones that are not scripturally valid.
We ALL must be saved brethren!!!

[Timmy]

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Well, I never threatened to kill anyone. So your point is not relevant. Nor have i said all who teach tithes are robbing God's people. I guess it all depends on which "version' of the tithe theory one teaches.

For me I see this as an area Christians can agree to disagree on and still be brothers.

How do you feel, Flaming?

Well, I never threatened to send anyone to hell (Unlike that Sean guy). So your point is not relevant. Nor have i said all who teach against tithes are robbing God. I guess it all depends on which "version' of the tithe theory one teaches.

For me I see this as an area Christians can agree to disagree on and still be brothers.

How do you feel, Originalist?

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Well, I never threatened to send anyone to hell (Unlike that Sean guy). So your point is not relevant. Nor have i said all who teach against tithes are robbing God. I guess it all depends on which "version' of the tithe theory one teaches.

For me I see this as an area Christians can agree to disagree on and still be brothers.

How do you feel, Originalist?

Flaming, you really seem to lack sincerity. Since I made it clear that I feel this is an area we can agree to disagree on and still be brothers, then there is no need in asking me to clarify, particularly in the sarcastic manner you are of repeating my words.

Now, having said that...would you mind answering my question?

Do you feel that one who does not give 10% of his income to the church is robbing God, a thief?

If you answer yes, and since thieves don't go to Heaven, how can you consider this a doctrine that one can "agree to disagree" on?

No sarcasm is intended, and none against me is warranted. Please be a gentleman and clarify your stand.

Thank you.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Timmy

I wanna walk like you.....LOL