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Old 09-28-2007, 05:13 PM
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really?? as liberal as you are? as much as you was for it ??
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:15 PM
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Fantastic!! When Ma Bell broke up years ago; growth EXPLODED for many of the baby Bell stocks with new names that contributed to major innovation in the phone industry; which contributed to major innovation in the world markets which is spoken of in the best seller "The World is Flat."

And so it is! New opportunities for each group to explore for a new day!
great post, I agree.
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:15 PM
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The articles of faith haven't changed on doctrine,so if somebody who was UPCI and went on tv,and preached easy believism couldn't get they get the boot ?
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:23 PM
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Fantastic!! When Ma Bell broke up years ago; growth EXPLODED for many of the baby Bell stocks with new names that contributed to major innovation in the phone industry; which contributed to major innovation in the world markets which is spoken of in the best seller "The World is Flat."

And so it is! New opportunities for each group to explore for a new day!

Fantastic????? oMG!

NEWMAN thinks it's fantastic that 200 preachers may be leaving
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:30 PM
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so, help me out here, I'm on my cell phon and getting major cramp in my thumb.....I cannot read all this thread. SO, someody tell me, was there a mass exodous? If so, who left
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:43 PM
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Here is where we might find the heart of the matter. To answer crakjak, there is no issue that divided us this deeply as TV. However, I also agree with bishoph on one major point... and it ties those two posts together. The next most divisive thing is the doctrinal differences.

I think what will eventually be the next HUGE mistake the organization makes will be when some of the ones going on television have to back up on doctrine to stay on programming (can you say 'TBN' and it's contractual agreement pertaining to oneness). When some of these who go on television (some will do it right... some will show their true colors in time) start compromising the message for a 'pray & say' or 'confess and digress' doctrine that will be more politically acceptable there WILL be a huge blowup over the 'saved at repentance' vs. 'Acts 2:38' message.

Now THAT will be the 'Mother of all divisions'. TV will help push this to that point.

Yes, I sincerely believe that will happen.

a certain Prophecy teacher was on Daystar and never mentioned ACTS238

but then again, is it ever mentioned in his seminars or magazines? im not sure that's why im asking
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The fact is that someone who believes the "light doctrine", or the "friend of the bride doctrine", or who is PCI in belief, would have no problem going on TV and stating their agreement with the trinitarians being saved.
Matt,

I have first hand knowledge of KH telling and correcting the likes of Mark Hanby and others who have gone that way, and KH telling them that they (Hanby, Munsey) don't believe anything and that their lack of sound doctrine is wrong.

I don't know why you are fixiated on this, maybe because your history isn't UPC but this is an old issue and many in the old days of the Organization believed that God was ultimately the judge and not put someone in hell just because they haven't received the whole package.
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I think what will eventually be the next HUGE mistake the organization makes will be when some of the ones going on television have to back up on doctrine to stay on programming (can you say 'TBN' and it's contractual agreement pertaining to oneness). When some of these who go on television (some will do it right... some will show their true colors in time) start compromising the message for a 'pray & say' or 'confess and digress' doctrine that will be more politically acceptable there WILL be a huge blowup over the 'saved at repentance' vs. 'Acts 2:38' message.

Now THAT will be the 'Mother of all divisions'. TV will help push this to that point.

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I think the question is, if the cons do leave, how liberal will the rest become?
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