The Future of the Oneness Pentecostal Movement - Page 10

RevDWW · #91 07-14-2007, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Felicity

Do you think this is true UPC-wide? Or does it depend on the district and the leadership of any particular district?

I think young men need to be given a chance, but young men who are pushing and shoving for position, leverage and a voice may be considered a pain in the neck.

I was always advised not to be "pushing and shoving for position, leverage and a voice" and never ask to be preached. So I shy away from the politics and just do my thing......

or should I say "hopefully His thing".....

SDG · #92 07-14-2007, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by shamgar1

A BC degree is a worthless piece of paper. Many of our youth have figured this out. Perhaps their parents realized there was no value in that diploma and urged them to seek a real degree elsewhere?

Got to agree and glad they wisened up

#93 07-14-2007, 11:02 PM

Is this thread about the future of the oneness movement, or the future of the UPCI?

Elihu · #94 07-14-2007, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by deseret

Is this thread about the future of the oneness movement, or the future of the UPCI?

Both.

The future of the UPC affects the movement in a big way.

RevDWW · #95 07-14-2007, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by shamgar1

A BC degree is a worthless piece of paper. Many of our youth have figured this out. Perhaps their parents realized there was no value in that diploma and urged them to seek a real degree elsewhere?

My original Pastor advised me to get a vocation if i wanted to be a preacher.

SDG · #96 07-14-2007, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW

My original Pastor advised me to get a vocation if i wanted to be a preacher.

Great advice ... while there is a group waiting for a pastorship of an existing church to fall on their lap.

Elihu · #97 07-14-2007, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

Felicity, you have such a beautiful spirit (and a beautiful smile!). How do you manage to profess such optimism?

I don't agree with the way you're looking at the subject, even though I must confess that your way seems to produce much more happiness for you than what I've managed to glean.

I love the UPC leaders and have personally known most of them. They are great men. But there is a churning miasma that they had to "rise" through. It's this "miasma" of politics, fear-based control systems and brutal backbiting that I see.

Of course there are places free from such things; but just sit through a couple of closed minister's meetings at the district level and I'm afraid pessimism will inevitably follow.

Then, look up some gifted old friends. People you knew when you were young that had "success in the kingdom" written all over them. Hear their stories. Ask them why they don't funnel their young men into the organization.

This is a good post. Atmosphere matters.