Gateway's New DVD - shocker - Page 10

Cindy · #91 02-09-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tamor

Would the teenagers be part of Karen Wheaton's group, Chosen?

Yes at The Ramp.

ogatt · #92 02-09-2008, 05:37 PM

im not shocked!!! i saw it coming in the 60's electric guitars, drums PA systems. Gettin everybody boiled up.

the key is little or no music!!! that way if anybody shouts and dances it aint to no beat.

BTW what is this sign team stuff. why would they do this in a place with no deaf people, i cant read that stuff anyways.

and dowel rods. The only good they are for is fixin broke pews when sister ogatts gets too excited.

Rev · #93 02-09-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ogatt

im not shocked!!! i saw it coming in the 60's electric guitars, drums PA systems. Gettin everybody boiled up.

the key is little or no music!!! that way if anybody shouts and dances it aint to no beat.

BTW what is this sign team stuff. why would they do this in a place with no deaf people, i cant read that stuff anyways.

and dowel rods. The only good they are for is fixin broke pews when sister ogatts gets too excited.

10/4 good buddy

petrol · #94 02-27-2008, 08:53 AM

I was in Chorale at Gateway when we first started doing Choreography....we got some looks and some churches even told us they didn't want to have us doing this at their churches, however, many more churches were really supportive and it was an amazing to thing to be in UNITY with everyone!!! The first Song we did was Hosanna off of the I am Persuaded CD....thats almost 8 years ago...

Sister Alvear · #95 02-27-2008, 08:57 AM

I like choreography if it is spiritual...

A_PoMo · #96 02-27-2008, 10:05 AM

Regarding nude David: An ephod is kinda like being in your underwear isn't it? Pretty close to nekked to me. I'm sure that nobody would want me dancing around in church in my Hanes. That much I guarantee ya.

I guess if you want to see a nude David you could go to Italy. I hear they have a pretty cool one there.

The first time I ever saw a UPC choir to the sway stuff and any sort of choreographed stuff was the CLC Youth Choir back in the early to mid-90's. I'm not saying it never happened before, just the first time I remember seeing it outside of the predominantly black UPC churches I grew up in. Other people I know over the country said it was the first time they'd seen that in a UPC choir too. I remember it because they mentioned it. They thought it was cool too but because it was so novel at the time they mentioned it.

tv1a · #97 02-27-2008, 11:11 AM

The upci is usually 4-10 years behind the times. By the time the conservative element accepts a form of worship, it is outdated. Their music conferences are usually 2-3 years behind current trends. I would love to see the upci be the trend setter. Unfortunately in minds of many if the upci were a trendsetter, Hell would split open.

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Originally Posted by Sherri

I just watched Gateway's new choir DVD that was recorded last month in St. Louis. It is AWESOME, by the way. But I was amazed at the way things have changed in the 16 years since we left UPC. The entire choir was dancing (boogeying) to the music, and I don't mean in the Spirit. From someone who has not been around UPC music/artists much in the past 16 years, the change blew me away. Trust me, I thought the music and moves were great, but this is something we used to get criticized for - dancing around, jumping, etc. to the music beat with our eyes open and not doing the shockamoo stuff. When did this all happen???

tv1a · #98 02-27-2008, 11:14 AM

Paul Baloche in his book God Songs says there was an outrcy amongst church people when a priest proposed everyone sing the song the same way. Before then it was a cacophonic mess. Everyone would sing whatever note they felt, or in some cases they didn't feel.

TrmptPraise · #99 02-27-2008, 11:24 AM

I have not had the chance to read through this whole thread so if this has been mentioned, please forgive me.

We must remember that music and dance was created as a way of worship and praise to the Lord. It was what man did with both that usually puts a thorn in our side as Apostolics. So, when I see the dance (yes in the flesh) in all honesty returning, or maybe more appropriately put, coming in full circle back to the church, I rejoice in it. I am not talking about disruptive worship that is not in tune (wow a pun) with the Spirit. I am talking about a sincere form of worship that is (IMO) Spirit lead.

I have been UPC most of my life, and I have never seen this form of dance frowned upon although I am sure it has happened in more structured, conservative circles.

I remember when the song "Turned My Mourning into Dancing" became popular. Our choir sang it and actually "choreographed" us turning in a circle on the line "You have turned..." It was a blessed song and the church responded in kind (even the platform leadership joined in *gasp*). Recently, our youth choir did the song, "I'm Taking it All Back" during Youth Week. I believe it was on the DVD Sherri is speaking of. There was some choreographed motions in that song as well. Again, the church responded. I think its important to mention that we tend to focus on a response as a indication of a response to the music rather than the message. We need to make sure we are responding to the message.....and not just the beat.

tv1a · #**100** 02-27-2008, 01:36 PM

People seemed to forget corporate worship in the O.T was chorerographed. Very few recorded instances of spontaneous worship. Music, dance, etc is designed to facilitate worship.

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Originally Posted by TrmptPraise

I have not had the chance to read through this whole thread so if this has been mentioned, please forgive me.

We must remember that music and dance was created as a way of worship and praise to the Lord. It was what man did with both that usually puts a thorn in our side as Apostolics. So, when I see the dance (yes in the flesh) in all honesty returning, or maybe more appropriately put, coming in full circle back to the church, I rejoice in it. I am not talking about disruptive worship that is not in tune (wow a pun) with the Spirit. I am talking about a sincere form of worship that is (IMO) Spirit lead.

I have been UPC most of my life, and I have never seen this form of dance frowned upon although I am sure it has happened in more structured, conservative circles.

I remember when the song "Turned My Mourning into Dancing" became popular. Our choir sang it and actually "choreographed" us turning in a circle on the line "You have turned..." It was a blessed song and the church responded in kind (even the platform leadership joined in *gasp*). Recently, our youth choir did the song, "I'm Taking it All Back" during Youth Week. I believe it was on the DVD Sherri is speaking of. There was some choreographed motions in that song as well. Again, the church responded. I think its important to mention that we tend to focus on a response as a indication of a response to the music rather than the message. We need to make sure we are responding to the message.....and not just the beat.