Yes, the opening here seems to be what most are left with, in seeming defiance of Scripture, which you define in the middle. This completely denies Scripture, AND YOUR FAMILIARS, who would agree that you, Timmy, are getting just what you speak, just like everyone else; whether more or less literally in the exact moment is irrelevant, imo.
My FAMILIARS? What do mean?
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As to the last, I can't really speak to it; I meant to address what was surely the "agreement" in his healing prayers, since he apparently died in order? But maybe not; any parents still alive at the time? And still, this is not any proof that HE was being cursed (but maybe parents).
What, do you want a transcript of all the prayers? Are you kidding? And yes, there were parents and still are. What in the world are you talking about?
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But please don't take that wrong, either. Most "Christians" die the sin unto death, I'm pretty sure. I don't think this affects salvation.
Mmkay.
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You are not going to believe this, bb! I put the curse to the test. Our dog has a lick granuloma on her back foot. Had it for months. Maybe a year. When she is allowed to lick it, it gets worse. Gets bigger, deeper, raw, red. She's on antibiotics for it, and she wears a cone collar. BTW, we've tried lots of collars, and the one she has now works best, but even that one isn't perfect: she can, if we're not watching her 24x7, bend around just right so she can reach the sore.
OK, two days ago, I told her she would not lick her sore anymore. I was earnest. Well, guess what! She didn't lick it all that day! Next day, she did. Pretty bad, too.
So, the curse didn't work.
Told you you wouldn't believe it!
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Yes, you did; but I did, and still do. Why would I not believe this? But it is a story to me, v a life-situation to you--do you believe it?
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Bottom line, bb? You believe things that are not true. You are delusional. You really should get help.
In European folklore and folk-belief of the Medieval and Early Modern periods, familiar spirits (sometimes referred to simply as "familiars") were supernatural entities believed to assist witches and cunning folk in their practice of magic.[1] According to the records of the time, they would appear in numerous guises, often as an animal, but also at times as a human or humanoid figure, and were described as "clearly defined, three-dimensional… forms, vivid with colour and animated with movement and sound" by those alleging to have come into contact with them, unlike later descriptions of ghosts with their "smoky, undefined form[s]".[2]
When they served witches, they were often thought to be malevolent, while when working for cunning-folk they were often thought of as benevolent (although there was some ambiguity in both cases). The former were often categorised as demons, while the latter were more commonly thought of and described as fairies. The main purpose of familiars is to serve the witch or young witch, providing protection for him/her as they come into their new powers.[3]
Since the twentieth century a number of magical practitioners, including adherents of the Neopagan religion of Wicca, have begun to utilise the concept of familiars, due to their association with older forms of magic.
What, do you want a transcript of all the prayers? Are you kidding? And yes, there were parents and still are. What in the world are you talking about?
Mmkay.
Um, wow, I just meant those people around you
in the course of a day, that might hear and witness your word.
I guess I am harder to get than I imagined.
(hold that thought tho, Prax...)
When a child dies before a parent, it is
often considered a sign. It is a sign.
There are references in Scripture;
but I hate to get too far into this,
as it ends up being personal, even
though it's just the way things are.
If you can understand that dying before
your parents, of cancer, is not normal,
without getting into the personal
application of it, then fine.
Bottom line, bb? You believe things that are not true. You are delusional. You really should get help.
Again, I'll ask how you know this, when you don't even understand what I'm saying a lot of the time? How can you know what I believe? Do I believe that my mom and sister manifested snow boots, there in the car? Yes, I do; but this is hardly unusual, to a believer? And it was after years of what I described above, the fake stuff, which I frankly have some trouble seeing the difference in, myself. But I would have bet my life that the boots would be there, v the "well, let's hope" feeling that usually comes...anyway, I'm living proof (to me, anyway) that this principle works.
This is kind of a ridic assertion of yours, T?
Even an atheist might pause at
"Habits of speech don't carry forward."
How do I know that you believe things that are not true? Well, unless you posted dishonestly, saying you believe things that you really don't, I can easily see that they are not true. Such as the curse/blessing you placed on me. It did not happen as you said it would happen.
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Again, I'll ask how you know this, when you don't even understand what I'm saying a lot of the time? How can you know what I believe?
You are sometimes very clear. What might I have misunderstood in what you said the other day? Namely:
-I'm going to dew you a most non-sequitur
favor; since you prolly might get it,
and reveal to you that starting now, everything you speak aloud, in earnest,
is going to come true for you.
I spoke aloud, in earnest. It did not come true. Am I being clear enough?
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Do I believe that my mom and sister manifested snow boots, there in the car? Yes, I do; but this is hardly unusual, to a believer?
So you were blessed with snow boots. And my parents were cursed with the death of their son.
Nice.
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And it was after years of what I described above, the fake stuff, which I frankly have some trouble seeing the difference in, myself.
Exactly. I assert that there is no way to distinguish some fakes from what are claimed to be real. Tongues or words from the Lord, e.g. It's not just hard: it's impossible. An amazing prediction? Nope, sorry. Think of it this way: how amazing is amazing enough to prove it came from God? If I predict the sun will shine today, that's pretty low on the amazing scale. But what if I predict (and claim God told me) that Obama will win in a landslide? That doesn't seem likely to happen, so if it does, does that prove God told me this would happen? Not quite!
Look at Aaron's rod, and Egypt's magicians. The first trick, Aaron's rod turning into a snake, wasn't amazing enough, it would seem (even though God predicted that it would be -- but that's another story). Even the second trick, a bunch of rods turning into snakes, wasn't God's doing, apparently. Amazing, yes. God, no. But finally we get to the most impressive feat of all: Aaron's snake gobbles up the Egyptians' snakes. Ah, yes, that had to be God.
But you still don't get it. Of course.
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But I would have bet my life that the boots would be there, v the "well, let's hope" feeling that usually comes...anyway, I'm living proof (to me, anyway) that this principle works.
This is kind of a ridic assertion of yours, T?
Even an atheist might pause at
"Habits of speech don't carry forward."
Please explain this.
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How do I know that you believe things that are not true? Well, unless you posted dishonestly, saying you believe things that you really don't, I can easily see that they are not true. Such as the curse/blessing you placed on me. It did not happen as you said it would happen.
Um...
How do you know?
You aren't qualified to judge this,
and in fact are lying, if only to yourself. Sorry.
Get a witness. One will do. I will gather my witnesses.
Another ridic postulate, tho; what is the point?
It happened, is happening; I only meant
to bring it to your attention. Surely you've
seen others, or been in the position yourself,
of stopping what you were saying, or correcting it,
in observance of this Law?
You're being obtuse now, T,
which is hard to deal with, since you have been allowed to
see what you have seen. God intends that this evil be made good.
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
Ha, I can only get more non-sequitur from here, I guess...peace.